Is the Psalm 83 War Next on the Prophetic Timeline?

[Florian9]

Polar flip... end of the world.... whatever. I don't beleive it will be end of the world and the mayan prophecy. I have read some new agers beleive it will be a new awakening on that date or something. I even heard that when the Galactic federation ship and the aliens will land....

After all I just think its interesting with all the hype with 12/21/2012 that the election is really close during that time. And we all know and can sense there are cjhanges happening right now. IMO, we are in the season and the last generation before Jesus comes. Because of that we will see more changes regardless. Whoever will win the election will pave the way for AC. If we are all still here, Im somewhat looking forward to it. But I sure hope he comes soon because I know it will get alot worse after 2012.

It really amazes me how the media and all of the "doomsday" types take stock in the predictions of a stone-age, human-sacrifice performing, sadistic backward-barbarian culture that is now extinct. 12/21 won't have have anymore significance than yesterday's date. That said--I'd be totally shocked if Israel hasn't had an all out war by that date with it's immediate Arab neighbors and Hezbollah.

[tbrian40]

I am praying for the people of this land. We are being attacked by the dark one because he knows the time is near. I believe the destruction of Damascus is soon (IS. ch. 17). Syria is not mentioned as one of the nations in the Russo-Arab pact of Ezekiel 38. Look at the chaos and murder occuring in Syria...the cup of blood filled with the wrath of Almighty God is about to spill over. I truly hope that George Washington's prophecy at Valley Forge does come true. Even so, come Lord Jesus. Amen.

[IMSAVED]

I am praying for the people of this land. We are being attacked by the dark one because he knows the time is near. I believe the destruction of Damascus is soon (IS. ch. 17). Syria is not mentioned as one of the nations in the Russo-Arab pact of Ezekiel 38. Look at the chaos and murder occuring in Syria...the cup of blood filled with the wrath of Almighty God is about to spill over. I truly hope that George Washington's prophecy at Valley Forge does come true. Even so, come Lord Jesus. Amen.

AMEN

[Steve53]

I truly hope that George Washington's prophecy at Valley Forge does come true.

GW never had any visions nor prophesied about America's future.

http://www.snopes.com/history/american/vision.asp

[allybell12]

So I've been following the prophecies of Ezekiel 38 & 39 for about two years now....
ANd I read an RR article saying this too--but is it true that after Iran attacks Israel and Israel attacks back--then the Psalm 83/Isaiah 17:1 and the War of Gog and Magog will commence?
Your thoughts on this?

[RandallB]

So I've been following the prophecies of Ezekiel 38 & 39 for about two years now....
ANd I read an RR article saying this too--but is it true that after Iran attacks Israel and Israel attacks back--then the Psalm 83/Isaiah 17:1 and the War of Gog and Magog will commence?
Your thoughts on this?

That is pretty much how I see it also.

The sequence of events seem to be foretold in

Ez 28:25 ‘Thus says the Lord GOD, “When I gather the house of Israel from the peoples among whom they are scattered, and will manifest My holiness in them in the sight of the nations, then they will live in their land which I gave to My servant Jacob. 26 “They will live in it securely; and they will build houses, plant vineyards and live securely when I execute judgments upon all who scorn them round about them. Then they will know that I am the LORD their God.”’”

After Israel is regathered (1948), the Lord will execute judgments upon all their neighbors who hate Israel (Ps 83, Is 17, Zep 2, Zech 9, Amos 1) then Israel can live securely (pre-req for Ez 38).

Israel will be living securely at this point having gained conquered land with the associated oil/gas deposits. I have a feeling that this could be at least 6 months but more like at least a year or so. These oil/gas riches do not need to be developed. Russia will be more than happy to take over oil/gas resources that are still in the ground. Especially if they (& the world) feel that they are somehow avenging the defeat of all the Ps 83 countries.

They would thus have the riches and the "dwelling securely" that are required for Ez 38-39.

So long story short, I see Ps 83 could be in next week's headlines with Ez 38 a year or two or so afterwards.

[jn31675]

There are many people who take the view Psalm 83 is a war, but there are many people (myself included) who don't see Psalm 83 as a war. God never says he will act on the lament of the author of Psalm 83. If you notice the other prophecies, the Lord says he will do this or that. Psalm 83 is basically a guy who is complaining about the Jewish people being picked on. I think to say it is a war just to "force fit" the thought of Israel being safe and secure is just that....force fitting it. Although...can the Lord act on the Psalmist lament, of course, will He...who knows.

[jn31675]

Funny....I think my first post on RR was a question very similar to this one. I then really looked into it and reread Psalm 83 several times. I came up with my view that it is not a war but you should read it several times too. Maybe you will see it as a war.

[Praying]

I see Psalm 83 as a prayer, not war. He is asking God to not be silent or still, - talking to God about their enemies lifting up their heads towards them, consulting together to take crafty counsel against them, and talking about cutting them off as a nation. ( Like those threatening to wipe Israel off the map?) The Psalmist is then asking God to protect them, and to deal with their enemies. (paraphrasing) The Psalmist also prays for God to fill their faces with shame; that they make seek thy name. Even though their enemies are trying to destroy them, they are hoping and praying they will turn their hearts toward God.

IMHO, we are (or Israel is) experiencing Psalm 83 right now. They are an inch away from war every single day. The decision they have to make, is whether or not they want to sit back and wait for their enemies to make good on their threats to attack them, or if they need to go ahead and make the first move in order not to be caught by surprise.

Everything inside of me believes we are extremely close to going home.

[WVBORN56]

There are many people who take the view Psalm 83 is a war, but there are many people (myself included) who don't see Psalm 83 as a war. God never says he will act on the lament of the author of Psalm 83. If you notice the other prophecies, the Lord says he will do this or that. Psalm 83 is basically a guy who is complaining about the Jewish people being picked on. I think to say it is a war just to "force fit" the thought of Israel being safe and secure is just that....force fitting it. Although...can the Lord act on the Psalmist lament, of course, will He...who knows.

I tend to believe Psalm 83 is a prayer that is answer by God in Isaiah 17 as a major regional war. I ususally lump the two together as the Psalm 83/Isaiah 17 war since many have embraced Bill Salus' study.

The way I explain the two big ME end time wars is Psalm 83/Isaiah 17 are the inner cirlce of countries coming against Isarel and Ezekeil 38-39 are the outer cirlce countries surrounding Israel that come against them shortly after Isaiah 17. I think there may only be a month or two between the two prophetic wars. That is only speculation since scripture is quiet on the timing of either.

[RandallB]

I tend to believe Psalm 83 is a prayer that is answer by God in Isaiah 17 as a major regional war. I ususally lump the two together as the Psalm 83/Isaiah 17 war since many have embraced Bill Salus' study.

The way I explain the two big ME end time wars is Psalm 83/Isaiah 17 are the inner cirlce of countries coming against Isarel and Ezekeil 38-39 are the outer cirlce countries surrounding Israel that come against them shortly after Isaiah 17. I think there may only be a month or two between the two prophetic wars. That is only speculation since scripture is quiet on the timing of either.

Psalm 83 was prayed when Israel was in a covenant relationship with the Lord so that He could answer that prayer at a time when Israel wasn't in a convenant relationship thereby fullfilling Is 17, Zep 2, Zech 9, Amos 1.

As stated above:

The sequence of events seem to be foretold in

Ez 28:25 ‘Thus says the Lord GOD, “When I gather the house of Israel from the peoples among whom they are scattered, and will manifest My holiness in them in the sight of the nations, then they will live in their land which I gave to My servant Jacob. 26 “They will live in it securely; and they will build houses, plant vineyards and live securely when I execute judgments upon all who scorn them round about them. Then they will know that I am the LORD their God.”’”

The Lord Himself gives the explaination for the conditions of Ez 38 -- regathered & living securely.

After Israel is regathered (1948), the Lord will execute judgments upon all their neighbors who hate Israel (Ps 83, Is 17, Zep 2, Zech 9, Amos 1) then Israel can live securely (pre-req for Ez 38).

No "Force Fitting" going on here. Just reading the whole context.

I get hints that the interval may be longer than a few months since they are building houses and planting vineyards. They also need to amass great wealth that Gog et al are after. Although a bunch of undeveloped gas/oil discoveries would serve that purpose also (which they already have).

[Buzzardhut]

So I've been following the prophecies of Ezekiel 38 & 39 for about two years now....
ANd I read an RR article saying this too--but is it true that after Iran attacks Israel and Israel attacks back--then the Psalm 83/Isaiah 17:1 and the War of Gog and Magog will commence?
Your thoughts on this?

Everything ties in with the Rapture.

[Joseph The Carpenter]

There are many people who take the view Psalm 83 is a war, but there are many people (myself included) who don't see Psalm 83 as a war. God never says he will act on the lament of the author of Psalm 83. If you notice the other prophecies, the Lord says he will do this or that. Psalm 83 is basically a guy who is complaining about the Jewish people being picked on. I think to say it is a war just to "force fit" the thought of Israel being safe and secure is just that....force fitting it. Although...can the Lord act on the Psalmist lament, of course, will He...who knows.

I just can not see the countries that surround ISRAEL sitting back and not joining in when EZ38 starts.
Do you think there is going to be a peace treaty with the palestinians, hamas, hezbollah, Egypt?
The Bible tells us ISRAEL will be at peace without walls or gates, the only way I see that happening is if they take the inner circle out of the picture.

[jn31675]

I just can not see the countries that surround ISRAEL sitting back and not joining in when EZ38 starts.
Do you think there is going to be a peace treaty with the palestinians, hamas, hezbollah, Egypt?
The Bible tells us ISRAEL will be at peace without walls or gates, the only way I see that happening is if they take the inner circle out of the picture.

The Lord never says he will do anything in Psalm 83. I understand connecting scriptures like what Randall did but I think one needs to be really careful in doing that. In letting Psalm 83 speak for itself God doesn't answer the Psalmists prayer. If He says in other prophecies He is going to do something then why not here? I can't say He is going to act here if He doesn't say He is. I don't know how everything will play out in the end. Many bible teachers give their take on the last days with interpreting scripture one way or another, and even they can't even agree.

Like I said, I have reread Psalm 83 several times and I just don't see it being a war. The best way I have ever heard it put is the way Thomas Ice did. As far as Isaiah 17, one could make an argument that will be fulfilled after Jesus's second coming because of verse 7&8. It will happen because God says there that it will but when is the question for me. With the Ezekiel War, the timing is clear because Ezekiel says what will happen after the war, mainly the New Temple will be built.

Also, I don't know if there will be a peace treaty with Israel's neighbors but if the Big Bad Russia and Iran are going to fight Israel then the neighbors don't need to. They could let the big guys do the dirty work, OR does the Sunni/Shiite conflict come into play there? See what I mean.....this is one to watch but for me is not one to say one way or another for sure what will happen because we really don't know.

[Joseph The Carpenter]

http://www.acwitness.org/psalm83english.html

[RandallB]

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Like I said, I have reread Psalm 83 several times and I just don't see it being a war.
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I agree with meditating on a verse but I also recommend the "Whole Counsel of God".

This site http://www.trackingbibleprophecy.com...e_east_war.php does go through the subject pretty well.

[dinaljc]

Why Ezekiel 38 Will Precede Daniel 9
This Week’s Feature Article by Jack Kelley

“Seventy ‘sevens’ are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy.

“Know and understand this: From the issuing of the decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One, the ruler, comes, there will be seven ‘sevens,’ and sixty-two ‘sevens.’ It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble” (Daniel 9:24-25).


Dispensationalists believe, with good reason, that there’s one week of years left to fulfill from the promise the angel Gabriel delivered to Daniel near the end of the Babylonian captivity. We know the prophecy as Daniel’s 70 weeks. Each week in the prophecy represents 7 years. 69 of these weeks (7 plus 62) had passed when the Messiah presented Himself to Israel as their King on the only day in His life that He did so. On our calendar it became known as the first Palm Sunday.

In the prophecy 69 weeks equals 483 years (69 x 7). This is the exact time that had passed since Artaxerxes Longimonus issued his decree giving Nehemiah permission to begin rebuilding Jerusalem (Nehemiah 2:1-10). (The city had been destroyed when Nebuchadnezzar’s army conquered Judah and took its people captive to Babylon.) Daniel’s prophecy was being fulfilled in specific detail, and Israel’s failure to realize this marked the beginning of the end for them (Luke 19:41-44).

After the sixty-two ‘sevens,’ the Anointed One will be cut off and will have nothing. The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed (Daniel 9:26).

The Hebrew word for Anointed One is Messiah. Four days after He presented Himself to them, they executed Him, which is what the Hebrew word translated “cut off” means. Nothing the angel Gabriel had promised to Mary (Luke 1:32-33) had come to pass. Three days after that He rose again, fulfilling a sign He had promised to the religious leaders to prove His authenticity, the sign of the prophet Jonah (Matt. 12:39-40). He gave them 40 days to recognize the most dramatic fulfillment of a prophetic sign in the history of mankind and accept Him as their Messiah, and when they didn’t He ascended into Heaven, fulfilling another prophecy in the process.

Then I will go back to my place until they admit their guilt. And they will seek my face; in their misery they will earnestly seek me” (Hosea 5:15)

About 38 years after that the Roman armies destroyed the city and the sanctuary, and for all practical purposes the nation of Israel ceased to exist. But a few years before that happened, the Jewish leadership of the Christian movement called the Church had become divided over the issue of whether Gentiles who were coming into Christianity had to put themselves under the Law first. In other words did a Gentile have to become a Jew before becoming a Christian? The unspoken question that lurked behind it was even more troublesome to them, and that was, “If not, what’s to become of Israel?” They had been taught that the only way to God was through Israel. Was this being changed?

The Council At Jerusalem
They all came together in Jerusalem, where James, the Lord’s half brother and head of the Church in Jerusalem set them straight. Israel is being temporarily set aside, he told them, while the Lord takes out of the Gentiles a people for Himself. After that He will restore Israel to allow the remnant of mankind one more chance to seek Him (Acts 15:13-18). Therefore, Gentiles would not be required to convert to Judaism in the process of becoming Christians.

The Greek word translated “take” in Acts 15:14 means to carry away for one’s own purpose and the one translated “out of” means to remove from a specified time and place. Before restoring Israel to fellowship with Him, the Lord will take a people for Himself out of the time and place of the Gentiles. James was describing the rapture of the Church and saying it will precede Daniel’s 70th Week.

Paul, who was at the meeting, confirmed this by saying Israel has been blinded in part until the full number of Gentiles has come in. After that Israel will be saved (Romans 11:25). As I’ve indicated in previous studies this is another testimony that the rapture of the church will precede Israel’s restoration and redemption. From these two prophecies we understand that Israel’s rejection of the Messiah did not end the Old Covenant. It merely interrupted its 490 year post exilic duration 7 years short of its allotted time. After the Church is gone this seven years has to be completed.

“He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing of the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him” (Daniel 9:27).

The final seven years will begin with a covenant to be signed by the “ruler who will come”, mentioned in Daniel 9:26. Gabriel said this leader will come from the people who would destroy the city and the sanctuary after the Messiah’s execution. In the middle of this last seven years He will put an end to sacrifices and offerings by setting up the Abomination of Desolation which kicks off the 3 ½ year Great Tribulation (Matt. 24:15-21).

Put this all together and you can begin to see why I believe the Rapture of the Church will precede the beginning of Daniel’s missing 70th week. According to these prophecies the church has to be gone before Israel returns to their covenant relationship with the Lord.

And That’s Not All
But my main purpose in reviewing all this with you is to find the answer to one very important question, and here it is. What event will suddenly cause Israel, currently a predominantly secular nation, to officially restore their Old Covenant relationship with God? The study of human nature tells us that while people typically fall away from their beliefs gradually, they don’t come back to them the same way. Usually, some external change or event, often catastrophic in nature, has to take place to snap them back. And so it will be for Israel.

And remember, it has to be a return to the Old Covenant because they’re seven years short of completing the time God allotted to them, and the only reason they will need a Temple is for the purpose of Old Covenant worship. If it was the rapture of the Church that gets their attention they’d be motivated to enter a New Covenant relationship rather than return to the Old Covenant. Something else has to happen . And it will.

An unexpected event that will threaten Israel’s very existence is set to take place soon and God will use it to bring them running as a nation to Him, ending a 2000 year estrangement. This event won’t be a protracted one that causes them to slowly conclude that they’re doomed and drive them to their knees in a desperate plea for help. Rather it will be one orchestrated and executed by God Himself for the specific purpose of opening spiritual eyes that have been blinded since that first Palm sunday. It will happen so fast that they won’t realize what has transpired until it’s all over.

God will cause a coalition of enemy forces to strike with out warning in such numbers that it will seem like a cloud has covered the land, and when they do, He will decimate them with torrents of rain, hailstones and burning sulphur. Then He’ll sow such confusion in the ranks that they’ll turn on each other. When it’s over there will be so many dead bodies that it will take Israel seven months just to bury them all.

Of course the event I’m referring to is the Battle of Ezekiel 38-39. Four times during Ezekiel’s prophecy of this battle God’s objective was made clear. Ezekiel 38:23, 39:7, 39:22, 39:28 all tell us His goal is to show His greatness and holiness to Israel and the nations so Israel will know He’s the Lord their God. This is the event that will cause Israel’s national reconciliation with God and kick off the remaining seven years of the Old Covenant.

Today there appears to be a growing desire among some in Israel for a Temple. But if you read between the lines you’ll see it’s a nationalistic movement, not a spiritual one. Advocates are hoping a Temple will underscore their right to the land by demonstrating their historical presence there. But this movement is by no means reflective of the national mind set. Most people realize the danger in such a thing.

But after the Battle of Ezekiel 38, the demand for a Temple will be a spiritual movement that will represent the great majority of people in Israel. They’ll want to worship the God they’ve rediscovered and Old Covenant worship requires a Temple. It won’t be just a monument to their past but a necessity for their future. And with the great victory God will have just handed them, who will dare to deny them? Even the coming world leader will appear to be championing their cause, enforcing a covenant that will allow them to build their Temple. To Israel it will seem like peace has finally come.

One More Time
Sad to say, the Battle of Ezekiel 38 won’t result in a permanent peace for Israel. They’ll discover they’ve been deceived by the very one who they thought to be their champion, bringing about the worst period of persecution the Jewish people have ever known. And this time when foreign nations are mobilized against them, it won’t be just a regional coalition. Zechariah 12:3 says all the nations of the world will line up against Israel. This time Israel will know in advance what their fate will likely be and will come crawling to God for help (Hosea 6:1-2).

This time God won’t just use His signature weapons of rain, hail, earthquakes and fire that He can deliver from afar. Nor will He sew confusion into the enemy’s mind to have them defeat themselves. This time He’ll fill the sky with the armies of heaven, with His own Son at their head. The Son will slay them all with just the Word of His mouth. This time they won’t spend multiple months burying the dead. This time the birds will devour the carcasses (Rev. 19:11-21).

This time will be different because this time it won’t be only the Father they will have recognized. This time it will be the Son as well (Zech 12:10). The reconciliation will finally be complete and the Kingdom Age will begin. You can almost hear the footsteps of the Messiah 09-08-12.

http://gracethrufaith.com/ikvot-hama...cede-daniel-9/

[metroames]

But after the Battle of Ezekiel 38, the demand for a Temple will be a spiritual movement that will represent the great majority of people in Israel. They’ll want to worship the God they’ve rediscovered and Old Covenant worship requires a Temple. It won’t be just a monument to their past but a necessity for their future. And with the great victory God will have just handed them, who will dare to deny them? Even the coming world leader will appear to be championing their cause, enforcing a covenant that will allow them to build their Temple. To Israel it will seem like peace has finally come.

I disagree with the notion that the Gog and Magog War will lead to the confirming of the covenant in Daniel 9 that will bring peace. Peace is a pre-requisite of the Gog and Magog War:

Ezekiel 38:8 After many days you will be visited. In the latter years you will come into the land of those brought back from the sword and gathered from many people on the mountains of Israel, which had long been desolate; they were brought out of the nations, and now all of them dwell safely

Ezekiel 38:11 You will say, ‘I will go up against a land of unwalled villages; I will go to a peaceful people, who dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates

The Hebrew word "betach", translated as "dwelling securely", is found in both passages of Ezekiel 28 and 38. "Betach" literally means to be confident and trusting. In other words, Israel may feel secure, but may not actually be secure after God judges their neighbors. Notice in Ezekiel 28:25-26 that Israel will dwell securely only after God executes judgment on her neighbors that despise them:

Ezekiel 28:25-26 'Thus says the Lord GOD: "When I have gathered the house of Israel from the peoples among whom they are scattered, and am hallowed in them in the sight of the Gentiles, then they will dwell in their own land which I gave to My servant Jacob. And they will dwell safely there, build houses, and plant vineyards; yes, they will dwell securely, when I execute judgments on all those around them who despise them. Then they shall know that I am the LORD their God."'"

I believe that this event where God will execute judgment on Israel's neighbors is the war described in:

Psalm 83 · Isaiah 17 · Jeremiah 49 · Ezekiel 35-37 · Joel 1 · Amos 1-2 · Obadiah · Zephaniah 2 · Zechariah 9-11

After this war, Israel will look to the rest of the world to guarantee their peace and safety. I believe the "covenant with death" comes after this war and is the same as the one that appears in Daniel 9:

Isaiah 28:14 ...hear the word of the LORD, you scornful men, Who rule this people who are in Jerusalem, Because you have said, "We have made a covenant with death, And with Sheol we are in agreement. When the overflowing scourge passes through, It will not come to us, For we have made lies our refuge, And under falsehood we have hidden ourselves."

Isaiah 28:18 & 22 Your covenant with death will be annulled, And your agreement with Sheol will not stand; When the overflowing scourge passes through, Then you will be trampled down by it... Now therefore, do not be mockers, Lest your bonds be made strong; For I have heard from the Lord GOD of hosts, A destruction determined even upon the whole earth.

It appears that Israel makes the "covenant with death", because they mistakenly believe it will make them secure by becoming a refuge for them. The problem is that Israel will not be seeking security in God, even though God will come to their rescue when they cry out to Him during the Great Middle East war (aka Psalm 83). Therefore, the covenant Israel confirms with the antichrist will lead to death.

After the covenant is confirmed, then Israel will be living in that false sense of security that is required before the Gog and Magog War. I believe Ezekiel 38-39 will occur at the beginning of the Tribulation and the consequences are found in the Seal judgments. After the Ezekiel war, God will have now turned back to the Jews and revealed Himself to them, as the Tribulation begins.

[RandallB]

Sorry metroames but I agree with Jack on this one....

No where does scripture say that the AC covenant brings peace & safely.

The Lord does state in scripture when Israel will live in safely.

Ezekiel 28:25-26 'Thus says the Lord GOD: "When I have gathered the house of Israel from the peoples among whom they are scattered, and am hallowed in them in the sight of the Gentiles, then they will dwell in their own land which I gave to My servant Jacob. And they will dwell safely there, build houses, and plant vineyards; yes, they will dwell securely, when I execute judgments on all those around them who despise them. Then they shall know that I am the LORD their God."'"

So the sequence seems to be that after Israel is regathered (1948), they will dwell safely, after the Lord himself executes judgments (thru IDF IMHO) on the surrounding nations that hate Israel.

So it seems that the list you gave is a great one and the judgments executed as described in Psalm 83 · Isaiah 17 · Jeremiah 49 · Ezekiel 35-37 · Joel 1 · Amos 1-2 · Obadiah · Zephaniah 2 · Zechariah 9-11 will allow Israel to dwell safely (pre-req for Eze 38).

I just do not see the AC being in power and allowing Russia et al to invade Israel right after he signed a convenant with them. Would be a real slap in his face.

I do see the world being very eager to sign a covenant with Israel after the display of Eze 39 so as to contain Israel from taking over even more land. I believe that part of the AC covenant allows Israel to rebuild their temple. This would be very important to Israel who is just starting to be spiritually reborn at that point.

[metroames]

But after the Battle of Ezekiel 38, the demand for a Temple will be a spiritual movement that will represent the great majority of people in Israel. They’ll want to worship the God they’ve rediscovered and Old Covenant worship requires a Temple. It won’t be just a monument to their past but a necessity for their future. And with the great victory God will have just handed them, who will dare to deny them? Even the coming world leader will appear to be championing their cause, enforcing a covenant that will allow them to build their Temple. To Israel it will seem like peace has finally come.

Quoting Jack again, he believes peace will come after Ezekiel 38, but Scripture clearly says it comes before:

Ezekiel 38:8 After many days you will be visited. In the latter years you will come into the land of those brought back from the sword and gathered from many people on the mountains of Israel, which had long been desolate; they were brought out of the nations, and now all of them dwell safely

Ezekiel 38:11 You will say, ‘I will go up against a land of unwalled villages; I will go to a peaceful people, who dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates

With the ongoing threats, several wars and conflicts against Israel, I do not believe they have been living in the "peace and safety" ("betach") described in Ezekiel 28 and 38 since 1948. From Jack's quote above, it doesn't sound like he does either, but is overlooking that they must "feel safe" as a pre-requisite.

Scripture is clear that Israel will "feel safe" ("we have made lies our refuge") under the "covenant with death", when the "destruction determined upon the whole earth" arrives. Clearly this is the Tribulation:

Isaiah 28:14 ...hear the word of the LORD, you scornful men, Who rule this people who are in Jerusalem, Because you have said, "We have made a covenant with death, And with Sheol we are in agreement. When the overflowing scourge passes through, It will not come to us, For we have made lies our refuge, And under falsehood we have hidden ourselves."

Isaiah 28:18 & 22 Your covenant with death will be annulled, And your agreement with Sheol will not stand; When the overflowing scourge passes through, Then you will be trampled down by it... Now therefore, do not be mockers, Lest your bonds be made strong; For I have heard from the Lord GOD of hosts, A destruction determined even upon the whole earth.