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You are reading into the passage your bring up. And you are assuming things about Israelis. I don't doubt that a gentile would be accepted...because it's peace that those people will be interested in.Originally Posted by The Watchtower
Daniel 9 talks about the antichrist being of those who demolished the Temple in AD 70...so that person is of Roman lineage...and the Caesars/Kaisers/Czars have quite a gene pool.
Woohoo! I finally found a Rapture theory that includes Europe in it.
Still... I find the idea of Europe turning Muslim a very scary thought. I mean, I know the government of my country (Britain) are complete doormats about the whole Sharia law issue, but I still don't think that Europe would be so quick to turn Muslim. Hopefully.
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One thing that I've had a hard time picturing regarding the Revised Roman Empire idea (which I do agree with) is that those who refuse to take the Mark and worship the Beast will be beheaded. European countries at the current time abhor capitol punishment and think the US are barbarians for still carrying on the practice.
Now take a look around and see if you can figure out what group not alone condones capitol punishment, but beheads people (i.e. infidels) with great zeal?
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I am not assuming things about the Israelis, I am not antisemitic but pro-Israel. But still, you can't become blind and try to cover the sun with one finger. It says in Daniel 9:26 it says
"And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof [shall be] with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined." so you are right, he can be of roman descend and even of the ceasar's bloodline, but I am also right.
Now lets look at this text:
Daniel 8:8-12 says "Therefore the he goat waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven.
And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant [land].
And it waxed great, [even] to the host of heaven; and it cast down [some] of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.
Yea, he magnified [himself] even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily [sacrifice] was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.
And an host was given [him] against the daily [sacrifice] by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered." Daniel 8:21 explain which country or empire the goat is:
"And the rough goat [is] the king of Grecia: and the great horn that [is] between his eyes [is] the first king."
So you can say that instead of choosing the whole roman empire, one can narrow and choose the 4 major portions that became after the Greek Empire was dissolved which happened after Alexander the Great's dead, which are:
1. Macedon (Greece)
2. Thrace (Bulgaria, northeastern Greece and Turkey)
3. Mesopothamia and Persia (Iraq, northeastern Syria, southeastern Turkey and Iran)
4. Levant and Egypt. (Levant=Israel, Lebanon, Jordan, Cyprus, some parts of Syria and Saudi Arabia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_the_Great
So basically the antichrist has to come from one of these nations mentionted above.
I think that if you fuse these 3 texts you can then say that the antichrist has to come from the EU but still can be of a jewish bloodline. Remember, The highest bloodlines in the Illuminati are jewish. The Rothchilds, Rockefeller etc.
That's why The Vatican put them in charge of the Illuminati so they can be hated and blamed for all that is going wrong in this world. Btw, Hitler was partially jewish but he still slaughtered more then 6 million people during the 2nd WW.
Today, there are greek, german, italian jews. So it is no wonder that the antichrist can come from the EU (the Revived Roman Empire) but still been raised to have judaism as his religion.
yep....I tried to read it here and there it makes me.....:gaah
I percieve that there are a few people who believe that the European Union will actually collapse BEFORE the end times begins. That is very interesting!
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Google "eyeonisrael" you will a great map of Israel. sorry I can't link yet forgive me
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Daniel 11;37 might make things clear. It reveals an apostate and a supporter of abortion. I think Daniel 11;38 is referring to protectionism. I also believe Daniel 8;25 is describing a government that is exceeding in deceit and corruption. Know of any?
I wonder if the "king of the north" and "mystery Babylon" have anything in common? Wherever Babylon is, there is "every unclean bird" inside of it and I am thinking that the only thing that flies and is not of God are planes. Is it possible that the "king of the north" is a reference to "North America" being that the leader of North America rules the free world (many peoples,tongues and nations)? Mystery Babylon is also descibed with many commodities and dealings with other nations. Concerning the antichrist being islamic, I would say based on Daniel 11;37("..he will not honour the god of his fathers..") that the Lord might have used "your fathers" or "your God" when referring to Himself. Is Daniel not speaking of an apostate stepchild? What religion are the people of the earth submitted to in the Book of Revelation where the apostle sees "..those who were beheaded for the testimony of Jesus.."? In my opinion if we are able to pinpoint prophecy in our current news, and events are aligning to meet scripture, we should be awake and watching.
The Young Lions
The Young Lions of Tarsus, (not sure of the spelling), I was taught in history that the Spanish discovered America. Juan Ponce De'Leon was the explorer and St. Augustine, Florida was where he landed. Is there any coincidence that St. Augustine is marked by the famous Bridge of Lions? This bridge has two lions one on each side of the bridge on each side of the river. This is next to the Castillo De San Marcos, the old fort that was erected to protect the harbor from invading forces.
Ancient Tarsus is Spain and the Lion is the symbol of Spain. I have heard that De'Leon meant the Lion.
Last name origins & meanings:
- Spanish (León): habitational name from León, a city in northwestern Spain, named with Latin legio, genitive legionis ‘legion’, a division of the Roman army. In Roman times the city was the garrison of the 7th Legion, known as the Legio Gemina. The city’s name became reduced from Legion(em) to Leon(em), and in this form developed an unetymological association with the word for ‘lion’, Spanish león.
- Spanish: from the personal name León, from Greek leōn ‘lion’ (see Lyon 2). Leon is also found as a Greek family name.
- Spanish: nickname for a fierce or brave warrior, from león ‘lion’.
- French (Léon) and English: variant of Lyon.
http://genealogy.familyeducation.com...eon?detoured=1
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eyeonisrael map
heaven bound
Great Map, Thank You saved it to favorites. Will check it out more from time to time.
1 John 4 : 4
Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
The koran ...... and other non-Christian documents.
Regarding the koran, that was my thought, also. That any document NOT of Jesus Christ is a fraud and worse... intended to destroy and deceive.
The Christian teachers in my life have noted that satan (small "s" to offend him intentionally) mixes fact with fiction. Enough fact to appear real, but mostly fluff designed to achieve his goals of disrupting Christians and capturing the unwary souls of our existence.
Beheaded ?
I know that those of us who refuse the AC are in for a miserable time of it..... but where did the "beheading" come from? I don't recall that in the Biblical text.
Europe Turning Muslim..... a documentary
There was actually an absolute STUNNING documentary video which I think might be on YouTube and created by the Catholic Church.Woohoo! I finally found a Rapture theory that includes Europe in it.
Still... I find the idea of Europe turning Muslim a very scary thought. I mean, I know the government of my country (Britain) are complete doormats about the whole Sharia law issue, but I still don't think that Europe would be so quick to turn Muslim. Hopefully.
The statistics & demographics were all that was presented in the video. Nothing that anyone would argue with.
Muslims are growing in population numbers at something like four times that of non-muslims in Europe.
I wish I could direct you all to the video because you'd just be absolutely shocked because their voting numbers WILL change the face of the world in a very few years. But I can't post the link yet because I'm a new member to RR.
So, go to YouTube and search for this title:
"Muslim Demographics - The Return of the Khilafah"
Then sit back for 9 minutes or so & watch. You'll just be astounded. Its not hard to watch. Not opinions nor rhetoric. Just statistics and changing demographics & how the control of Europe through the voting ballot box will change the entire picture of what we have known.
There isn't anything in the video that is racists or offensive. Its pure statistics and an eye opener for Christianity.
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Revelation 20:4 (King James Version)
4And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
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The Last Great World Empire
My heart was burning to share this.
My pastor does not typically preach in relation to politics or the state of our Country , but he began the following on July 3rd and it continued through 3 Sundays. This is July 17th. He is "just old country preacher"...his words...but he does not stray from the Bible and has brought this message that is so dead on to America's current state and the reasons why. Its well worth a listen.
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The other two parts can be found under the Sermon Podcast section at...part 2 has a good comparison of America and the Roman Empire
http://www.graystationbaptistchurch.org/
Pastor Taylor's website with daily devotions that you can sign up to receive in your inbox
http://www.alongthejourney.org/
I hope it Blesses you as it does me
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IF GOD DOES NOT PUNISH AMERICA...HE OWES SODOM AND GOMORRAH AN APOLOGY
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Romulus and Remus
Its a twist on an old legend that says Romulus and Remus; the two founding kings of Rome were abandoned as kids and brought up by a she wolf.I'll be praying for your husband Icebear, to have God open his spiritual eyes. I remember back some years ago the story of the AC being born of a jackal. At the time I thought, that's pretty strange.Glad I know better now.
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