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    Daughter Guest

    Eyes Vatican Forgives John Lennon

    I honestly don't know where to post this but this is making world headlines. Mods, if this is in the wrong section, please move it, but it's just another example of what this so-called "church" is up to.

    A Vatican newspaper has forgiven the late English singer John Lennon for saying four decades ago that The Beatles were more popular than Jesus.
    In an article praising The Beatles, L'Osservatore Romano said Lennon had just been showing off.

    Lennon told a British newspaper in 1966 - at the height of Beatlemania - that he did not know which would die out first, Christianity or rock and roll.

    At the time, the comparison sparked controversy in the US. The semi-official Vatican newspaper marked the 40th anniversary of The Beatles' "White Album" with an article praising Lennon and the Fab Four from Liverpool.

    Youthful joke
    The paper dismissed Lennon's much-criticised remark that the Beatles were more famous than Jesus Christ as a youthful joke.
    The paper described the remark as "showing off, bragging by a young English working-class musician who had grown up in the age of Elvis Presley and rock and roll and had enjoyed unexpected success".
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7744282.stm

    Here is what I think is wrong with this:

    -What authority do they have to forgive? What arrogance! Only God can forgive!

    - Lennon already explained what he meant. He said he made a mess of that comment. He did not mean that Jesus was more important than them. He meant that at the time of Beatlemania it seemed that in the UK *they* were more popular...only in the UK. And the quote was picked up and blown up to world-wide proportions.

    Anyhow it's irrelevant. He apologized for it already. The vatican has absolutely no say in declaring him forgiven. How utterly arrogant and pompous. 42 years after the remark was made, 42 years after John Lennon apologized for the remark, and 28 years after John Lennon's death At least they did it sooner than Galileo.

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    What's the point anyway? Does anyone really care after all this time? Is the Vatican trying to look "christian?"? Hmmm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daughter View Post


    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7744282.stm

    Here is what I think is wrong with this:

    -What authority do they have to forgive? What arrogance! Only God can forgive!

    42 years after the remark was made, 42 years after John Lennon apologized for the remark, and 28 years after John Lennon's death At least they did it sooner than Galileo.
    Perhaps the "pope" was feeling "magnanimous" (or egomaniacal) all of the sudden.

    If you try to wrap your mind around the whole reasonning that the papists use to explain where they get the right to forgive, in the manner only God can, it gets even more ridiculous:

    The "pope" takes Jesus' place on earth, instead of the Holy Spirit.
    This is because Jesus is no longer physically here, so the unbiblical "substitute (vicar)" gets the right to "play God" and forgive sin as Jesus (Who is God) did.

    Somehow, this "right to forgive" on earth, as God does, now also gets extended to the other side, where Jesus physically is.
    They probably have some latin word that they use to explain this "trans-substitutionation", but I much prefer to just stick to God's Word instead.

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    SO glad The Church has decided to forgive him. I'm sure this will be very important when it comes time for God to judge in Heaven.....not!

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    my comment on this- "So what."

    (note-- this is not addressed to the OP )

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    His Bride Guest

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    My point exactly, Sing.

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    FrankBeMe Guest

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    You'd think the pope would have gotten Lennon out of purgatory by now....

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    His Bride Guest

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    Not enough novenas and prayers.

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    Does this mean that the estate of John Lennon paid the Catholic church enough $$ to get John out of Purgatory and into some place better?
    Tall Timbers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tall Timbers View Post
    Does this mean that the estate of John Lennon paid the Catholic church enough $$ to get John out of Purgatory and into some place better?

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    If John's sin was not already covered by Jesus' Blood, then I imagine there might be a Beatle tune running through his mind such as: "Oh, I believe in y-e-s-t-e-r-d-a-y."
    It really is a sad thought.

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    I agree this is pointless. What good is that forgiveness from the pope to a man who has been dead for many years? The only forgiveness John Lennon needed and will ever need was from Jesus. If he asked Jesus for forgiveness than that would be the only thing that would matter.

    The pope is not convincing me thank God for that. He's trying to appeal to all the religious and apostate christians as well as trying to deceive the true believers in Christ.

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