April 22nd, 2007, 08:51 PM
When the Mormons or Jehovah's Witnesses are at the door...
Do you view it as a witnessing opportunity and talk to them or say you are not interested and close the door? I view it as an opportunity to witness most times. It encourages me to really know my faith.
April 22nd, 2007, 09:18 PM
I have also witnessed to them but mainly have given them my testimony and talked of the deep spiritual things. They are always taken back by what I have said and not offended. I can tell they are giving a lot of thought to the things I'm saying. After seeing them I spend days in prayer asking the Lord to reveal His truth to them.
April 22nd, 2007, 09:38 PM
Last edited by Psalm 143; June 20th, 2007 at 11:53 PM.
April 23rd, 2007, 09:26 AM
I spoke with two mormon teenagers a few days ago. We spoke for awhile and I feeling that we had more in common than different because we used the same lingo and stuff. I obviously didn't know much about mormons, I knew they were a cult but they seemed to know so much about the bible (more than me in certain areas). And that is ripe for disaster.
When I got home, I surfed the internet for some info. I found out they do indeed use the same lingo as we do BUT their's has entirely different meaning. And they believe satan is Jesus' brother. What they believe is entirely different than me.
I went through their repentance plan booklet which they gave to me, with a pencil marking out all the errors I saw. I hope that when I see them again on my street, I'll be able to pull that out and discuss it with them, and show them scriptures about the devil in their kjv bible. And then walk them through the "good Person test". Do you think this will work? If not, what would you recommend?
April 23rd, 2007, 09:35 AM
Originally Posted by Psalm 143
There are several websites out there which will help you in witnessing to them (I just found them out myself). They REALLY know their bible (kjv) so be prepared for that. Stay on course with the gospel. I let my witness get side tracked on to side issues because I thought they were saved. See they use the same terms we do (reborn, saved, repentance, salvation,etc). But theirs have a different meaning than our terms (this I didn't know). So this is where the rubber meets the pavement. You have to find out what these words mean to them and walk through the gospel with them very slowly. This isn't something that can be done in a 10 - 15 minute witness encounter imo, you should really set up some times where you can get together with them privately.
April 23rd, 2007, 02:17 PM
April 23rd, 2007, 11:24 PM
Well, when they tell you that "144,000 of them are going to Heaven" (out of millions of the followers, no less), ask them if they can prove they're one of them.
No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn...
A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.
Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.
What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
April 24th, 2007, 04:22 AM
Originally Posted by WarriorX
That's not true, at least not from the booklet they gave me regarding how to get saved mormon style. In the booklet, it says there are 3 heavens, and that nearly everyone will make it there in one level or another.
Maybe your thinking of the Jehova's Witnesses?
April 24th, 2007, 04:46 AM
I can't think on my feet. I've tried a couple of times but their training and familiarity with the Bible just overwhelms me. I don't have a good memory, I always did badly in exams it was only my essays and assignments that got me through Uni. I need time to consider what was said to me, time to go away & evaluate it and then formulate an appropriate response.
I now thank them very much, ask them their names and then tell them Jesus loves them very much, he died for them, I will pray for them and close the door. I guess that surprises them because they don't expect after I've asked for their names to get the door shut in their faces. I hope the Lord understands I can't cope with their brainwashing conversations.
April 24th, 2007, 03:06 PM
First time poster, long time reader (lurker?) of raptureready and rr-bb’s.
About a month after we moved into our new house, early one morning, 3 Jehovah Witnesses knocked on my door wanting to share scripture with me. It could have been my barking dogs, the boxes that were begging to be unpacked or my lack of preparation in dealing with them that prompted my response of “no thank you” and “have a good day”.
As I watched them drive away, I realized immediately the amazing witnessing opportunity God gave me and I completely – totally - missed the boat. I was definitely disappointed with myself. But I didn’t know what they believed and in turn how I could counter with scripture? I went to work researching and the best site I found is through Way of the Master, Evidence Bible. Here is the link specifically for JW:
I’m looking forward to my next encounter with a JW, I know it will be a much different scenario. Hopefully I will have the opportunity again and perhaps reach one of them. I agree with inHisarms that this cannot be done in 10-15 minutes and would require some degree of privacy.
April 28th, 2007, 06:50 AM
You are right. I myself used to be a jehovah's witness. If someone had just left me alone and let me believe what I believe..... who knows where I would be. Praise God I am no longer lost and I am saved!!
Originally Posted by Michele93
We should be heartbroken that so many people are lost and without Christ they are going to hell.
April 28th, 2007, 06:53 AM
They (jehovah's witnesses) believe that almost all of the 144,000 have already died and gone to heaven. No hope for the bilions alive now,
Originally Posted by WarriorX
Last edited by nurse09; May 2nd, 2007 at 09:31 AM.
April 28th, 2007, 08:43 AM
My husband is a baby Christian, so I usually tell them I am a Baptist and shut the door. (We don't get anything but Mormons at our door) Even then they try to argue with us sometimes. One even tried to make us promise we would visit his Church. ( I don't want hubby to get confuse) 2 years ago we accidently went to a prophecy convernce in our town that ended up being held by the SDA Church. We wait 7 nights before they told us who they were. We left there with my hubby thinking we were going to hell for taking the mark of the beast (they think it is going to Church on Sunday) Took weeks before hubby felt safe
April 28th, 2007, 10:00 AM
That is horrible, Betty, that they scared your husband that way. My dad became mormon late in his time. oh, he tried and tried to get us kids to convert to mormonism. I was quite blunt with him and told him that mormonism just didnt believe what the bible says. Of course he argued with me, I tried to talk to him just about the basic tenets of Christian salvation, but he would say that I wasnt right. I showed him scripture and wrote him a letter about it. He had his mind made up. They believe a lot more strange things that is not biblical other than satan and Jesus are brothers. They also believe when you get married mormon, then when you die you go off to a planet made for you to populate it with you spirit children that you can now have since you are dead, you are married through time and eternity.
I researched the gold plates, the kinder hook plates I believe were the second set of plates that Joseph Smith received. It was big hoax, a joke played on him.
They also believe that Jesus visited this continent in person. North America.
they believe that when someone dies, someone can get baptized for them and then that person will go to heaven. Proxy baptism for the dead.
My dad died over a year ago, he never said so, but I wouldnt doubt that he got baptised for me. He was totally convinced on mormonism. He went so far as becoming one of the elders there and he was similar to a, well, a higher ranking person in the church. He taught and stuff, he was ordained to baptize others.
They believe they are the only ones going unless someone got baptized for ya. Im not sure if they believe in hell. They do believe people will go to different levels of heaven. works based heavens.
Joseph Smith, the founder of Mormonism, he must have been really crazy.
The most remarkable thing is that they have a belief so strong, with nothing really to back them up. There is no archealogical evidence of the early founders claims. Whereas, when Jesus walked the Shores of Galille and the streets of Jerusalem and Nazareth and every where else He went, there is proof that He did it.
they have many un biblical beliefs.
they dont believe the bible is the infallible word of God.
Those are the ones right off the top of my head I can remember.
Last edited by BlessedinHim; April 28th, 2007 at 10:05 AM.
Reason: clarifying which continent.
April 29th, 2007, 10:19 PM
I used to speak with them all the time and I was quite studied on JW beliefs and would discuss various bible verses with them always focusing on the Diety of Christ. I studied with alot of Walter Martin tapes and books. But I no longer answer my door to them. I have come to the conclussion that I am wasting my time. They constantly study and are brainwashed by The Watch Tower Society with come back answers to every issue or scripture you bring up. The Watch Tower Society is not stupid and they have studied what Christians use to oppose them and they train thier people exactly how to respond. It's my own personal conviction but I have come to agree with John when he said in 2 John 7-11:
Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist.
Watch out that you do not lose what you have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully.
Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son.
If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him.
May 1st, 2007, 01:26 PM
I had 2 young Mormon men sitting in my living room one day. One of them asked me how I know with such certainty that I'm saved and going to Heaven. The Holy Spirit took control of my tongue and said, "Because His spirit witnesses to my spirit." One of the boys looked as if I'd slapped him in the face, just stunned! I truly believe a seed was planted or watered that day.
May 1st, 2007, 11:51 PM
Geez I need to go find my post I did on another board about a couple of very troublesome JW's in my neighborhood. They were argumentative and aggressive to the point of actually sticking their foot in people's doors and pushing them open. Getting in their faces.
Homeowners' board met and wrote a resolution and presented it to the police and to the Kingdom Hall they were from & threatened to sue (yeah it was that bad). I was on the board but by then I'd already scared them off.
Not quite the good Christian witness but I'd already tried that so I tried another approach which worked better. They ran like greased lightening and haven't been seen since. That happened on a Sat and I didn't get around to writing the resolution and getting it mailed until the next week.
Going to see if I can find that (I've got it written up somewhere and don't want to have to rewrite it so I've got to see where I put it). It's funny. My neighbors about fell into the street laughing.
May 3rd, 2007, 01:26 PM
May 3rd, 2007, 01:29 PM
May 3rd, 2007, 03:28 PM
You do need to know YOUR stuff.....but it helps to know theirs too.
Originally Posted by Michele93
This is very helpful. http://www.carm.org/mormon.htm