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    Ph. 4:8 " Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable-- if anything is excellent or praiseworthy--think about such things."

    Having not seen the movie, but after reading the posts and asking a few other people I don't think it fits into this verse. One of my friends said that this movie will completely confuse young impressionable girls about healthy relationships. To me, sounds just like the romance novels that their mothers read! And isn't that what we need more of today--more young people who are confused about true love!

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    Simple question and just curious. Has anyone in this forum read the books?

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    Humbly I speak but first God's Word:

    Genesis 9:4
    But you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood.

    Leviticus 7:27
    Whoever eats any blood, that person shall be cut off from his people.

    Leviticus 17:14
    for it is the life of all flesh. Its blood sustains its life. Therefore I said to the children of Israel, ‘You shall not eat the blood of any flesh, for the life of all flesh is its blood. Whoever eats it shall be cut off.


    Acts 15:20
    but that we write to them to abstain from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from things strangled, and from blood.




    God was very clear in His Command both to Noah, Israel and the Church.

    Then Jesus makes this offensive statement:

    John 6:53
    Then Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in you.


    How could He say such a thing?
    Simply put, He was speaking of spiritual matters. It is obvious He could not have ment His own physical flesh, that would be an abomination. Something so obvious to people led by the Holy Spirit, was a stumbling block to those who should have perceived it right away. We are to feed on His WORD. Take it in and make it part of us.


    John 6:63
    It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.

    John 1:1
    In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

    John 1:14
    And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.




    Now for self eximanation. How many horror flicks have we seen? Some many, some, one was too many.....
    How many found some pleasure in the process? How many found that wicked seed of sin that resides in all of us? How many wanted to puke to think we could have enjoyed even a moment of terror?

    And now movies and books encourage empathy for vampires?

    We sink quickly when we condone evil. We suffer greatly when we seek out and find any pleasure in death. How many times have we lingered and entertained thoughts only to come circumspect and see our own dispicable person.

    That then begs the question: How could a Holy God send His Son to die for me, a wretched sinner?

    No, I do not condem those who creat such muck, nor those who go to see it,

    But Truth must be made evident. This conduct is sick, we need to leave it, we need to abandond it and seek Holy things. Even in imiginations where good vanquishes evil with sword or bayonet, we can fall to the pleasure of killing, not ridding the world of evil.

    Even the Bible describes vile things, conduct that is not to be thought of, but it truthfully illustrates mans great need for a savior. Even the best of mankind is filthy.

    When we find ourselves or friends in this stuff, dont be afraid, speak God's truth, shed light on the subject. Then speak of God's patience and mercy, and His holiness and judgement.

    And when we find ourselves in the muck, may we cringe and fall at the feet of Christ -

    Psalm 51:7
    Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean;Wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow.



    Revelation 1:5
    and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler over the kings of the earth. To Him who loved us and washed us from our sins in His own blood,


    One day, our vessel of dust shall be gone. And we who trust Him, who believe in Him, will understand. He loves Us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sing4Him View Post
    WHY? see scripture
    Amen!

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    My close friend has read Twilight, as did my older daughter. My friend said it was no big deal, but she is in her 40's. My daughter called it dumb. I would rather she had not succumbed to such trash.

    For me, when people ask "have you read it?" my response is that I have read many reviews, done my research, and decided that it would not be pleasing to God. If it is a book, such as The Shack or the DaVinci Code, which twists the truth about the character of my God I would absolutely never read it. People who ask that question are typically trying to catch you, because then they reply that if you haven't read it you cannot make an intelligent assessment. Hogwash!

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    Why why why do christians persist in making excuses for worldly deceptions being lucrative in the development of Christian character and morality?
    Exactly. I am a point in my life where I don't try to make an excuse for sin...I try not to anyway. Call it what it is because God still sees it even when we try to hide it. At least be honest with Him and yourself and say, "Well, I know it is not Godly, but I just feel like watching it." I do this with my video gaming...some games are 100% off the table because they cross a line of wickedness for any Christian (Bioshock, Fallout, Condemned, Dead Space, et al), others, while not Godly, are just entertainment. I jokingly refer to my PS3 as my "Wood, Hay and Stubble Machine", because that is really what it is if you think about it.

    Look, we have liberty in Christ. Paul says all things are lawful, but not all things are edifying. This is not a license to sin by no means, but one Christian's liberty can definitely be a sin for another Christian. You cannot condemn others for their liberties, but at the same time, those with liberties cannot try to tell other believers it is ok for them too. We all stand before God with what He has called us to do and not do respectively.

    As for Twilght...I know what it is and I choose not to watch it because I have a weakness for vampire movies and I had to stop watching them years ago. My friend and her teen daughters are really into it and we have tried to talk to her about it, but she get's a little miffed at my wife and I so we just dropped the subject. God will reveal it to her I suppose.
    Jesus you are my rescue!

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    When I am made aware of something that is not godly or even heretical and I hear that many Christians are participating in it, I am also aware that they may not be informed. There are times when I have been brought into a conversation, and I share the information that I have. It isn't to force anyone into my way of thinking but is for the sake of information. What others choose to do with that information, even by way of ignoring it, is within their Christian liberty, and God holds them accountable, as He does all of us. I have found that many believers do not want the information because of the accountability factor. Often, the believer sharing the information is immediately labeled "judgmental." Funny, but the one calling someone else by that name is the very one guilty of inappropriate judgments!

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    We are supposed to become more like Jesus. In regard to books and movies, we need to always ask ourselves whether Jesus would read or watch it for entertainment. If not, then no we should not, no exceptions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wally View Post
    Humbly I speak but first God's Word:

    Genesis 9:4
    But you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood.

    Leviticus 7:27
    Whoever eats any blood, that person shall be cut off from his people.

    Leviticus 17:14
    for it is the life of all flesh. Its blood sustains its life. Therefore I said to the children of Israel, ‘You shall not eat the blood of any flesh, for the life of all flesh is its blood. Whoever eats it shall be cut off.


    Acts 15:20
    but that we write to them to abstain from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from things strangled, and from blood.




    God was very clear in His Command both to Noah, Israel and the Church.

    Then Jesus makes this offensive statement:

    John 6:53
    Then Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in you.


    How could He say such a thing?
    Simply put, He was speaking of spiritual matters. It is obvious He could not have ment His own physical flesh, that would be an abomination. Something so obvious to people led by the Holy Spirit, was a stumbling block to those who should have perceived it right away. We are to feed on His WORD. Take it in and make it part of us.


    John 6:63
    It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.

    John 1:1
    In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

    John 1:14
    And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.




    Now for self eximanation. How many horror flicks have we seen? Some many, some, one was too many.....
    How many found some pleasure in the process? How many found that wicked seed of sin that resides in all of us? How many wanted to puke to think we could have enjoyed even a moment of terror?

    And now movies and books encourage empathy for vampires?

    We sink quickly when we condone evil. We suffer greatly when we seek out and find any pleasure in death. How many times have we lingered and entertained thoughts only to come circumspect and see our own dispicable person.

    That then begs the question: How could a Holy God send His Son to die for me, a wretched sinner?

    No, I do not condem those who creat such muck, nor those who go to see it,

    But Truth must be made evident. This conduct is sick, we need to leave it, we need to abandond it and seek Holy things. Even in imiginations where good vanquishes evil with sword or bayonet, we can fall to the pleasure of killing, not ridding the world of evil.

    Even the Bible describes vile things, conduct that is not to be thought of, but it truthfully illustrates mans great need for a savior. Even the best of mankind is filthy.

    When we find ourselves or friends in this stuff, dont be afraid, speak God's truth, shed light on the subject. Then speak of God's patience and mercy, and His holiness and judgement.

    And when we find ourselves in the muck, may we cringe and fall at the feet of Christ -

    Psalm 51:7
    Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean;Wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow.



    Revelation 1:5
    and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler over the kings of the earth. To Him who loved us and washed us from our sins in His own blood,


    One day, our vessel of dust shall be gone. And we who trust Him, who believe in Him, will understand. He loves Us.
    This is a really good post.

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    My step-daughter loves this series. Unfortunately, I have seen more and more evil in her life since she read the first book. I almost started reading it the other day so I could help counsel teens troubled by the themes in this book, but I could not even pick it up due to the evil spirit exuding from the picture on the cover.

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    Thank You so much my 16yrs old has been begging to see it. I have told her just because her peers read the book, and saw the movie I did not want he involved with seeing or reading twilight. I sent her the full article and now maybe she will understand more why I said "No". Thanks for the info!

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    Satan is working overtime. Must know his time is short.<><

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMSAVED View Post
    Satan is working overtime. Must know his time is short.<><
    Revalation 12;12

    "Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time."

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    Quote Originally Posted by STemplar View Post
    Vampire legends go back far beyond Ancient Babylon or Sumer. They have always been with us. Maybe they are some kind of genetic memory of things that existed before the Flood, or just part of the collective unconscious telling us truths about the blood that got confused over the ages.

    Anyway, it's good to know that the prayers of those who interceded for Anne Rice were answered, and she became a Christian. At least, that's the latest I have heard about her.
    Uh, no, not a Christian, but a Roman Catholic! Completely different thing, and makes a lot of sense, yes?

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    somehow this comes to mind:

    Revelation 16:6
    For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, And You have given them blood to drink. For it is their just due.”


    maybe a divine poetic?
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    Has anyone else noticed a change in vampire lore. They use to be completely evil, satan worshiping creatures of darkness. Now they are portrayed as misunderstood, sullen and often attractive creatures. Even the vampires are atheists. They have no particular opposition to God, because they don't believe in Him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abiding Patience View Post
    Has anyone else noticed a change in vampire lore. They use to be completely evil, satan worshiping creatures of darkness. Now they are portrayed as misunderstood, sullen and often attractive creatures. Even the vampires are atheists. They have no particular opposition to God, because they don't believe in Him.
    That isn't entirely true.

    At least the Twilight series - the vampires in that were changed - NOT because they wanted to be but because it was forced upon them. They had no say in the matter. They do believe in God - but they look at their selves as soul-less..(one does, one doesn't). The main character Edward will not "convert" the one he loves for fear of her losing her soul. They do not harm people, nor have "fangs." - They were dealt a bad hand - and are trying to rise above it and do the right thing by not harming people. The one that believes he may have a soul - he is a Doctor and helps people, constantly being around bad "situations" to where he could harm someone, but he doesn't because he is trying to be BETTER than what he IS.

    That is the ONLY vampire book I am pointing out. The rest aren't like that at all.

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    OH!

    And they eat animals, not people.

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    not condoning it, just pointing out facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aquamarinebug View Post
    That isn't entirely true.

    At least the Twilight series - the vampires in that were changed - NOT because they wanted to be but because it was forced upon them. They had no say in the matter. They do believe in God - but they look at their selves as soul-less..(one does, one doesn't). The main character Edward will not "convert" the one he loves for fear of her losing her soul. They do not harm people, nor have "fangs." - They were dealt a bad hand - and are trying to rise above it and do the right thing by not harming people. The one that believes he may have a soul - he is a Doctor and helps people, constantly being around bad "situations" to where he could harm someone, but he doesn't because he is trying to be BETTER than what he IS.

    That is the ONLY vampire book I am pointing out. The rest aren't like that at all.
    I am sure there are exceptions, I was speaking in generality of the genre, and the view of the "evil" verses "misunderstood" vampire archetypes.

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