Isn't it though! A wonderful example of the seed falling on fertile ground.Originally Posted by BLESSED BEYOND BELIEF
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Isn't it though! A wonderful example of the seed falling on fertile ground.
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For me i read all of them because i started an wanted to finish. I would tell my husband that they were kind of boring poorly written and bland. He always asked why i read them
I'm with you NWO... I have been a Christian for a long time and always had a good head on my shoulders and strong in faith as well. I enjoy reading and read so quickly, I always have maybe 2 or 3 books going at the same time! My favorite authors include Stephen King and Clive Barker... I've always enjoyed horror novels since I was in junior high. I have read most of Anne Rice's books... nothing I have ever read in a secular book (or watched on TV or a movie) has ever made my faith waiver.
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I agree, I think the Bible says to guard ourselves from these things. To think on lovely things, Philippians 4:8. Not judging, just trying to help.
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Anything that I would be compelled to explain away or justify (such as watching this movie) is enough to tell me to stay away from it in the first place.
The mind is a tough enough battleground as it is.
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For you have died and your life is hidden with Christ in God. (Colossians 3:3)
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Quite a bit of wrestling with different things here on this thread.
We all know that God tells us to stay away from all things that have anything to do with the occult or the deeds of darkness and evil and those who delve in that. Vampires certainly qualify as unwholesome and filthy junk. It doesn't matter how you dress it up or whether it's real or imaginary, these tales are centered around nasty stuff.
Jesus answered, I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. (John 14:6 NIV)
Back again. I'm a stubborn person. I've been told so repeatedly by various people, and I completely agree with them. However, there are times when I am able to admit that I am wrong about something.
I've been thinking a lot about this post, and I was wrong. I'm sorry for my bad choice of words. Instead of using the word "only" before the word "qualified" in the first sentence, I probably should've used the word "best."
If a person has read a book, then they are BEST qualified to make an opinion on it, having experienced it firsthand. However, depending on how much research a person has done on a subject, they could very well be qualified to make an opinion on something. For example, if a person has spent about 2 years studying skydiving but has never actually gone skydiving, I would say that they are well qualified to form an opinion on skydiving. But if a person has only spent 2 minutes learning about skydiving, then they are not qualified to make an opinion on the subject.
Again, sorry about my poor wording.
Sounds like fantasies have taken hold. I recall how women were unable to differentiate between reality and fantasy. The fantasy was always better when compared to their own lives. The more they watched and read the more unhappy they were with their own marriages, husbands, appearances, etc. Women often get caught up in the whole "romantic" thing that no man would ever be able to live up to.
That's why soap operas are so popular. I hate soaps, and they are very addicting. Lots of women have to watch their soaps.
IloveGod...you have completely and deliberately ignored the Scripture presented in this discussion. You ignore the Word of God and insist on reducing this to simple symantics. I'll take you seriously when you address the numerous verses given regarding the topic of satanic activity. Until you do so, it looks as if you're simply trying to prove a point without the wisdom and leading of both the Word and the guidance of the Holy Spirit. This thread of full of scriptural wisdom. Why are you ignoring that? Your opinion is not valid until you can line it up with the Word. Many here have gone to great lengths to address this...yet you say nothing in return to them except you phrased it wrong. How about phrasing it with the support of Scripture, instead of your own need to support a book based on your 'feelings' of it.
One person has already said they've been convicted. Would you harm that by insisting on your own desire to promote a satanic book? Have you read and pondered the numerous Scriptures given?? It would seem, by your 'stubbornness' to prove a point, that you haven't.
Support your opinion with Scripture and let this be a true 'iron sharpening iron' conversation, instead of your own opinions and then we might get somewhere.
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Some of the most dangerous ideals in history came from "just books", i.e. Marxism, Satanism, Mulsim, etc.
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~2 Timothy 2:15
God said it, I believe it, that settles it.
One of my daughters checked these out of the library, saying a friend recommended them. I didn't think anything of it, because my daughter is usually pretty good about sticking with decent reading material. I've noticed a change in her attitude within the last week. She's become a bit more outspoken or sassy with me. I would have never thought about it coming from the books-- I thought maybe it was just a stage she's going through. But you're right. There could be something to the books. I think I'll get the books in the morning and see exactly what she's been reading.
I allowed my oldest daughter (she was 18 at the time) to make her own decision about the Harry Potter books, because when she first started reading- I knew nothing about them. After the first two books-- she brought the stack of books out of her room and said she didn't feel right about reading them, because she was remembering all the spells that were done in the books at random times. She would be sitting somewhere doing something totally unrelated and she could remember every word of the spells in the books just out of the blue. It scared her. We got the books out of the house-- and we had prayer over our home--and over our daughter. She says that even now, she still has thoughts about some of the spells in those books that she read. It's been over a year since she read them. I've encouraged her to just pray-- every time one of those things enters her mind. God is stronger than any seed that may have been planted in her mind from a book.
As I said earlier, there will be those that will continue to swear these things are ok. God dont have to come down and knock us in the head concerning certain things. He has already stated in HIS word what is right and what is wong, what we should touch and not touch. If we would read and pray, we would know the truth and the truth will set you free. And yes, I say if anyone claiming to be a christian and still takes joy in this type of entertainment, then something is amiss somewhere.And I am in no way judging anyone, if anyone is judged, it is by the word of God and not by anything I say.When God says no, and we continue on, then the word has judged us.God says touch not the unclean thing. Before I come to know Jesus, I was into stephen king too and every other horror book and movie I could get my eyes and hands on.But when God saved me, the old man was put away, and the new man desires the things of God,just as the Bible says it should. Vampires, horror movies books, and the like are inspired by satan and evil, just as the Bible is inspired by the Spirit of God and goodness.We are to come out from among the world and be a seperate people, and where is the separation if we continue on in the things of the world?And if we dont separate ourselves now,God will do the separating and it might not be a good thing then.
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Twilight is the typical lawless Byronic antihero, castigating society, unrequited Romeo & Juliette forlorn that seduces the mesmerized audience. Add forbidden antisocial myths and secrets to create a guilty taboo stew of uninhibited emotions for escapism. It's the Craft + the Lost Boys. It's High School musical for depressed Emo tweens.
The rise of Gothic literature was a reaction to the age of Romanticism and the Enlightenment period in the late 1700's when nature was considered the pathway back to God and the Garden of Eden. The High church claimed control of man's soul and the dawning Scientific era was threatening family held folklore and superstitions. The general audience found solace in nature, ponds, streams, trees, flowers, bunnies, birds etc....
The French Revolution brought high anticipation to mankind as the age of the millennium was dawning and man was "good after all" finally returning to the garden he so desperately desired, but Mary Shelley introduced the harsh reality of man's irresponsibility to his sin nature by inserting a twisted collision of man vs. nature with Dr. Frankenstein's monster. Nature worship bit man on the back and the synthetic path to freedom from sin towards the garden turned from high hopes and sublime fantasy to the reality of despondency and despair.
Twilight is just another example of hopelessness without Jesus Christ.
Here are comments from those spending several hours within the Twilight series and reveals just as much about the audience as it does the story:
The quick version of this book: If you're pretty and pouty, you too can land yourself a gorgeous vampire boyfriend who will continuously save you.
Let's take our main character first - Bella Swann. Yet another heroine who doesn't know she's beautiful and describes herself as shy but never exhibits the trait. The book is told in first person, which is unfortunate, because that means the reader is at ground zero for all of her insipid thoughts. She moves in with her father in his small town and holds contempt for just about everyone she meets at school, even though all they are doing is being friendly and including her. Not that any of this matters to Bella once she spots beautiful Edward. The next 500 pages are filled with purple descriptions of his magnificence, of how she's not worthy, of how could this god-like/Adonis-like creature stoop to love her.
I'm going to try to condense my irritation with Bella into a series of points:
* She's ridiculously clumsy, which is meant to be a fault, is passed off as charming, but basically just gives her an asinine reason not to run so Edward can save her.
* She "falls in love" with Edward within weeks of knowing him, and after a couple hundred pages, if he even mentions leaving, she hyperventilates and acts like her world will freaking collapse. Stalking is illegal in all 50 states, Bella.
* Whenever Eddikens so much as barely brushes his lips with hers, she either tries to rip his clothes off (natural) or her heart stops beating and she passes out. The girl hit the floor so many times in this book she put Giles to shame.
Which brings me to Edward. Angsty telepathic vampire Edward. While we have very little clear idea what Bella looks like, we get to hear about Eddiken's gorgeous, transcendental face and body over and over and over again. He's impossibly frustrating because he's been crammed with so many character traits, depending entirely on what the author wants him to be like at the time. He calls himself a monster and thinks he should have died all those years ago, but then totally lords his awesomeness over the mundane humans. And he is awesome. Lest you forget it, he's even awesomer than the rest of his vampire family at everything.
But the worst part about Edward is how he treats Bella. He is initially attracted to her because her smell is particularly attractive to him (okay, I'll bite) and because he can't read her thoughts. (Trust me, Eddikens, I'm lookin' right at 'em, and there ain't nothin' up there worth wondering about.) He knows he's a danger to her (woe!) and tells her straight off that it's better if they not be around each other (sorrow!)...and then he proceeds to hang all over her! He berates himself once every few pages for putting her in danger but never has the guts to fix the matter because he "just can't stay away from her" and "[she's his] life now." *wretch*
The author's writing style is unimpressive. Not bad, per se, but it wasn't giving me anything new. It all felt rather generic. Her vampires weren't bad - the "ultimate predators" and all that - but they were slightly ruined by her reasoning of why vamps can't go out in the sun. It's not because they'll burn up and die - it's because they glitter. That's right - these are GlamRock!Vampires. I also can see how Bella never takes Edward seriously when he tells her he's dangerous and she shouldn't want to be cursed with vampirism. Honestly, the author never shows us anything negative about the condition. It's all quick reflexes, superiority and baseball games with the fam.
The plot is bogus. Four hundred pages of ill-conceived romance and then a quick 100 pages of worse-conceived conflict. The romance, to put it frankly, is a little disturbing in how it borders on the obsessive, especially on Bella's side because he's just so, so, so beautiful!
And that's what bothers me the most about this book and the message that it sends to all of its rabid readers: the importance of beauty. Not inner beauty, either. Edward and his wonderful vampire family (all of whom are good because they don't feed on humans) are described over and over again in all of their wonderful physical qualities. They're cardboard characters for us to admire. Bella, of course, doesn't think of herself as beautiful, but the fact that she has four other boys in addition to the vampire falling all over themselves to please her begs to differ. I was willing to forgive the beauty of the vampires as a trait they acquire when they're turned, but a few others turn up later that are described as "nondescript" and ordinary-looking. And of course, they turn out to be the bad guys. Really, Stephanie Meyer?
I'm not buying it. Or your sequels for that matter.At first Edward can hardly stand the sight of Bella, but we soon learn this to be a result of Edward being a vampire. And the fact that Bella's blood smells 'special', being nearly irresistible to him. The two soon get over that hurdle, and the rest of the book follows the relationship roadblocks they face in their odd pairing--mortal and vampire.
While many readers of Twilight adore, even go as far as to worship the book, I personally could not stand it. Limited vocabulary, repetitive story lines, and two-dimensional characters make up the entirety of this book. The only reason I continued reading was to see if Meyer actually took the story somewhere. Through reading the entire book, I found out that it was all stuffing. Padding. Fluff. Over and over the same theme repeated itself. Bella gets herself into a sticky situation, and Edward comes out of nowhere to save her. Edward tells Bella how pretty she is, she blushes, he brushes hair from her face and laughs, and she pokes fun at his immortality. The one time Bella does end up sticking up for herself, she is reminiscent of a two year old trying to gain independence from her parents. The two are like oatmeal. So predictable, so boring. Their actions and words were already in my head before the page had been turned. Our heroine's passive character does not evolve at all throughout the five hundred pages of Twilight. What really angered me was the message Meyer is sending out. The whole story is projecting the idea that you are incomplete if you don't have a gorgeous, charming, vampire by your side. Is a weak, shallow, dependent, Cinderella-esque character really someone we want the young girls reading this book to be looking up to?
The good of Twilight? The vampire theories---glitter and venom, were two original ideas which I hadn't yet seen in a vampire novel. Too bad their role in the story was minimal.
I would recommend this book to anyone who is curious as to what amuses teenagers today. This is it, folks--shallow, simple, undeveloped fluff. By all means if you're a damsel in distress type, looking for a quick, easy read that never goes anywhere, read it. If you're after dynamic characters, an original plot, or anything even remotely literary, please: Put Twilight down.First, the actual language of the book is very adolescent. Now, I realize that the audience for this piece is largely young adults/teens, but nonetheless, it seemed shockingly remedial. That, in addition to a first-person narrative, really limits the scope of the text. Within the scope provided however, the language somewhat undermines the density of the narrative, both descriptively and as a matter of character construction/reflection. On the one hand, the supposedly beautiful landscaping that sets the scene is largely unexplored, and even when explored, greatly diluted by poor language construction. This forces the reader to remain largely detached from the setting itself. On the other hand, the characterization of Bella through the first-person narrative is fairly inconsistent, first being rather unique, strong, and witty, and later being a head-over-heels dimwit, and then back again, though never quite with the same intensity. Likewise, the narrative structure struggles to provide characterization for Edward as well (as with all the characters), being constantly subjected to Bella's evaluation which is largely cliched. Thus, both setting and character remain largely undeveloped and subservient to the direction of plot. In this sense, the characters lack the desired amount of agency, instead seeming as mechanical actors in a plotted play.
Secondly, there was an overabundance of ridiculous sentiment, both uncharacteristic and unexamined. Several times throughout the text, largely counter-intuitively (hence uncharacteristically), Bella very nearly breaks into song, proclaiming her undying love and insufferable insecurity. It's strange. Even Jane Austen, a protege of romance fiction, and an inspiration for Meyer, did not indulge in such mindlessness.
Which brings me to the name chosen for the texts protagonist - Bella, or Isabella Swan. As I set out to read this book, the name was immediately at odds with the character, or at least, the initial character that is. I could have lived with Isabella if Swan hadn't been tacked onto the end, but it sounded truly ridiculous. It is however, befitting the helpless and hapless young girl who pouts and whines nearly the entire second half of the book. In fact, her character changes so drastically that Edward's character seems to treat her differently as well, often rather patronizingly calling her silly or absurd. I was waiting for him to pat her on the head and call her a pretty bird. I can say however, that Edward's name is very fitting. Meyer's inspiration for the name was taken by and large from Jane Austen and Charlotte Bronte, and the dual implications of such derivation is very becoming Edwards own duality.
Finally, I was very unhappy with Bella's persistent naivete nearing the end of the book. Consistent perhaps with the irrational petulance that characterizes her in the second half of the book, her decision making process, both to strike on her own, supposedly brave, attempt to "save" her mother, and insisting that Edward turn her into a vampire, is utterly incomprehensible. Once more, it never seems to occur to her, neither "ethically" nor practically, what vampirism implies. One obvious question would be, would Edward even want her if she were not human? The narrative would like us to believe, by way of irrational and superfluous declarations, that Edward loves Bella, but practically speaking, has demonstrated more often that he is particularly obsessed with her humanity, i.e., her smell, her blood, her skin, her thoughts.
Ethics, likewise, is something largely, and noticeably, unexplored. When Edward characterizes his being as monstrosity, with all its "ethical" implications, it is taken by Bella at face value, i.e., eating humans is wrong, therefore vampires are evil. The text however lacks any kind of ethical framework, either religious or moral. Why should one concluded then, that a) eating humans is wrong or b) vampires are evil? The narrative doesn't allude to any spiritual superiority or accountability on the part of human beings, nor does it condemn meat as a food source, so why then, would vampires be in any way ethically accountable? The only possible embedded circumstance providing explanation for at least the "belief" that vampirism is unethical is the origins of Carlisle, but it remains unexplored in its larger narrative implications. Moreover, after condemning vampirism earlier in the text, both through Edward's dialogue and Bellas acquiescence to its implications, it seems rather strange that she should want, so unexamined, to be a vampire herself.
Thus, this book suffers for the most part in structure. Its disjointed and inconsistent, riddled with strange dialogue and unsatisfying language. The story nonetheless, is an imaginative one. While I can say I liked it for the light reading it is, it was not terribly stimulating. And so while I would recommend the book - it would only be to readers I know like vampires and are not particularly fiction connoisseurs.As a person who has worked on becoming a writer for nearly ten years now I'm appalled by this poorly written piece of, must I say it, "literature."
Meyers has an English lit degree from BYU she does the program no justice with her work and makes it highly suspect to anyone interested in pursuing such a degree there. Better to stick with the business school they offer which is highly rated.
After several pages filled to the brim with hyphens and exclamation marks in what seemed like every sentence. I actually was shocked when I came across two pages that contained neither a hyphen nor exclamation mark. Anytime a character speaks they always say the name of the person they are talking to even when they are the only two people in the scene!
"What are thinking, Edward?"
"I was just wandering what you were thinking, Bella."
Ugh.
I wish my mock dialogue was truly off the mark here but it isn't I'm afraid.
I realize that this series is targeted at teenage girls but even they deserve to be treated better than mindless-boy crazy-pouters.
How this book got accepted by one of the most reputable literary agent houses around I may never know.
If you care or know anything about writing, avoid this book and those that follow, as I will.
Spoiler Warning: stop here if you do not want to know the end.
The final rescue scene where Edward once again saves Bella from her own stupidity is a let down. Bella basically passes out as her attacker is about to finish her off and we are left to have Edward poorly relay what happened afterwards. Basically it goes like this: My brothers and I ripped him to shreds then burnt it. THE END.I would believe it if someone told me this book was written by a 10-year old. The content of the book is extremely predictable and immature. It's nothing but a trashy romance novel. It's very sad that so many people thought this book was worth even a minute.This book had passages that seemed like they were taken out of my middle school diary. I'm sure every girl has wished on the inside to be swept away by a nice guy with a bangin' bod and good manners, who didn't look at anyone but you. The series seems to have stemmed from Meyers' own diary. The writing is very lazy. Meyers did not bother to give her characters any sort of personality or hobby to make them remotely interesting.
Correct if I'm wrong, but the two main character have absolutely no motivation to like each other. I would have liked to see what they had in common with each other. What they do on a Friday night. What movies they both like watching. Any kind of conversation between the two that did not involve how much they do not deserve the other. I got nothing except Bella's endless descriptions of what a babe Edward is.
I suppose what Meyers thinks is romance, I find creepy. My bad. My first response, if I found out a guy was breaking and entering into my room every night to watch me sleep, would be to call the cops on the perv, not to giggle over how sweet and protective he is. Edward does not trust Bella to think for herself, which she's just fine with this since she's been so blinded by his glittering skin (I'm not kidding). The part in the field where he is GLITTERING in the sun had me laughing out loud. Are you joking me?
2/3 through the book, I thought "Finally, it is picking up a little!" after they go on the run because some other vampire hottie wants to eat Bella. Action! Classic damsel in distress. Though to defy this, Meyers tried to make Bella independent by going it alone and facing the hungry vampire in sacrifice for the people she loves. But it's wasted in the end since Edward and his little family swoop in and save the day. To make matters worse, the movie ending made it seem like Bella would go off the deep end if Edward ever left her.
I don't understand why it took +/- 500 pages for only 4 things to happen.
If I wanted to read a trashy romance novel, I'd pick up a book with Fabio on the cover.
This is not writing, it's typing.Further complicating things is the Cullen family's desire to be "good" vampires. They fight their true natures by forgoing humans and only feeding on wild animals (they even go so far as to focus on overpopulated areas and species--how eco-friendly!). Then there are the spiritual issues raised by this storyline, which are discussed with more thoughtfulness than you might expect. If there is a Creator, then is He also responsible for creating vampires, the characters wonder? And are we doomed to live out our hurtful desires or can we fight our more monstrous urges? Then there's Edward's unwillingness to grant Bella's wish and make her "one of them" because he believes that act requires taking her soul. Maybe not the spiritual issues you want your teen pondering, but it's more food for thought than she'll get from 90210, Gossip Girl or The Hills.
Which leads to Meyer's Mormonism, a religion that most associate with clean-cut boys going door-to-door looking for converts. So it's understandable that I'd be on the alert for a Mormon message hidden between the lines of Twilight. Well, if it's there, I didn't find it. In fact, Meyer insists, "I never write messages." Of course, any writer's personal beliefs factor into what they write, but Meyer does a much better job than most Christian writers do of telling a story without hitting you over the head with a moral or spiritual message. It's hard to write a compelling story if your real motive is to teach a lesson. It ends up feeling forced, an affliction the Twilight series definitely doesn't suffer from. Instead, Meyer has created a fantasy world that seems utterly real, which is why so many readers can't get enough.
For me, the biggest issue I'd have letting a teen I know read this series is the one that seems the most innocuous on the surface: the love story (and those concerns have nothing to do with the interspecies dating going on). While Edward keeps his hands to himself, showing superhuman restraint for a 17-year-old boy, he's far from a parent's dream. He drives too fast, has an endless supply of disposable income, is way too good looking and spends most nights in Bella's bedroom without her father knowing (since vampires don't sleep, what else does he have to do?). Add to that his knack for always showing up at just the right time, his ability to save Bella from any danger, his fierce protectiveness and his utter lack of teenage gawkiness or uncertainty, and he's every girl's dream and every parent's nightmare. He's more than a boyfriend and even more than a vampire, he's her own personal god. Edward is the one she goes to for help, advice, protection and love. With Edward in her life, Bella's parents are completely superfluous. She only hangs around because her scatterbrained mom and absent-but-loveable dad need her so much. It's dysfunction with a capital "D".
That said, is getting caught up in Edward's world really any worse than being devoted to a favorite soap opera, a teen TV drama or a reality show? All of those feature teens doing things no youth pastor would condone. It can be easy for parents to adopt the attitude that anything that comes from a Christian source is good and anything from a non-Christian source is harmful. It certainly simplifies the approval process when it comes to movies, books and TV shows. But nothing is perfect, and even the most wholesome fare can become an obsession. So maybe we should spend less time wondering how to keep Twilight out of our teens' hands and more time what we put into them.
As Christians, we should give much more thought to everything we allow to entertain us. It isn't just he wizards and the vampires that pose a threat. In fact, they may be more harmless than the stuff we allow to chip away at our morals everyday. Pop culture is a powerful thing. If you don't think so, ask your family and friends how many Bible verses they can quote and then ask them how many TV theme songs they can sing.Twilight is as bad as my cliche title to this review. I found myself skipping pages in hopes of finding something interesting written by Stephanie Meyer. I only started reading it to see what all the hype is about and now I am realizing the power groups of 12 year old girls have over the media. Almost as much power as Edward Cullens mesmerizing gaze - the one thing I think that really gives him appeal - and merely because you have no choice in the matter. If this is what a "good read" has come to, I am not sure how I will survive the rest of my life. Please, mass media, you've already came and imposed your uneducated, uncultured, uninteresting self upon the theatre, don't ruin literature too!1. it's not very well written, 2. the characters other than Bella are not well drawn, and 3. the author repeats herself ad nauseum when describing how in love Bella is and the perfection of her vampire boyfriend Edward (who though looking like a high schooler, is really over 100 years old. And he's dating a 17 year old girl - hmmm). The super powers of the vampires sound pretty cool, not the least of which seems to be the fact that they obtain bodily perfection and smell real good (in both senses of the word). No worries of morning breath here! In fact, the powers that the vampires have is similar to that of the vampires in an erstwhile Canadian TV series, "Forever Knight."
It wasn't all bad, but I generally agree with the negative reviews. Forgetting for a moment the facile writing and needless repetition -- and focusing on the plot, my major criticism is the deterioration of Bella's character: We start with a fairly independent strong willed girl who couldn't care less about who the "popular" kids are in her new high school (and who apparently has no clue that she looks like someone on the level of Kristin Stewart). But, after meeting Edward, she becomes rather vacuous and spends basically every waking moment thinking about her all too perfect boyfriend. She defines herself completely by her relationship with Edward, and, in the last two hundred pages, you'll find that, other than a few scenes where she fears for her life, EVERYTHING that she thinks or says has to do with Edward. Bella also seems to get hung up on sheer physical beauty, something that was of little importance to her before. Not exactly the greatest role-model for a teen-age girl, huh?
I don't mean to be too harsh: generally anything that gets kids reading is a plus and there were some scenes that were page-turners. There's just alot better things out there for this age group.Like Edward, Lucifer is also beautiful like diamonds but a murderer from the beginning, he is also attracted to humans and hates them.Check out the manga "Millenium Snow" written by Bisco Hatori. You might notice some similarities to "Twilight".
Similarities such as; the heroine has both a vampire and a werewolf after her, the vampire saves her life near the beginning of the story, and the vampire sparkles like diamonds. The plot premise is pretty much the same. The heroine ends up choosing the vampire over the werewolf, maybe because this vampire is also choosy about his diet.
One way in which the books are different is that "Millenium Snow" was published much earlier than "Twilight". Is it possible Ms. Meyer's now-famous dream of vampires in a shojo-sparkle infested meadow was inspired by a japanese graphic novel? Nah.
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Thanks for the post, Buzz. This Twilight mania is one of the most riduculous things I have witnessed recently. I cannot fathom adult Christian women who fantasize that the series is acceptable to read. I simply cannot get my head around it. It's nothing but a new version romance novel that appeals to the emptiness in a woman's life. What bothers me even more are the young girls who are gobbling this up like no tomorrow and in the process receiving a very unrealistic picture of true love and relationships.
We can never fully understand the spiritual ramifications of anything that we dwell on. I try to keep Phillipians 4:8-9 in view. God wishes us to use our minds for good in order to be able to discern many things. If I clog my mind up with questionable information my vision may be a bit cloudy. But, that's just me.
PRAY!!
I agree. There is so much out there to read which is worthwhile. These books are trash. Those who get caught up in this act bewitched. They don't just read it or watch the movies, which would expose them enough to a vile subject and bad writing. It's far worse, it's like a cult of obsession. I've seen it. Later on they will no doubt wonder why their relationships are not working or nonexistent. Emptiness feeding emptiness leading only to darkness is a serious threat, even if it pretends to be a silly series.
As for not being afraid of the occult, God says to steer clear of it completely, to have nothing to do with the deeds of darkness. Tales about the "undead" whether in a teen romance or anywhere else the nasty things might appear, certainly qualify as darkness.
Why would a Christian insist on these stories? A Christian might want to ignore that it's a VERY dark topic, but it's not like any of us will argue that it's wholesome or holy, right? So why go there or let young people fill their young minds with it? Dressing it up in teen angst and purple prose doesn't de-fang it, it's dangerous. Beware: it does bite.
Ephesians 5:11 (NIV)
11Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.
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The emotional tug in Twilight reminds me of the Jackie Collins books I read before I was a Christian. The stories are not at all the same but the emotional clamp that holds a person's interest is there.
Twilight is similar to the Harlequin romances, the same story over and over, told a different way, same style, but the main characters lack common sense. They are only driven by emotion.
Emotions are a sure-fire way to cloud a Christian's godly perspective. They shroud the danger in feel-good tripe that "just seems so right". Ugh!
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Very well said! We need to be living in excellence, not compromising anything. I have things I am working on ( not these books but other things that Father God wants me to discern better) so I know not to judge any others in their things. But it is said in the Bible to speak the truth in love.
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