Emergent Rob Bell *Merged*

[Nightelf]

just as I said, "spew" is a good word!

Would you believe, I showed this video to an elder (a very smart man, he's a high school vice-principal and english teacher) of the emergent church I've been dealing with.

He totally couldn't understand my issues with it. Even after I reminded him about what the "Gospel" really is (sin, repentance, penal substitution, salvation through grace by Jesus' death and resurrection, you know, what it says in the BIBLE). Even though he still agrees with all those things, he completely disagreed with me, that this "gospel" of Rob Bell's is false.

[billiefan2000]

More On Rob Bell’s Twitter Sermonette
Published October 1st, 2009 by Ken Silva in Emergence Christianity, Emerging Church, False Prophets, False Teachers, Rob Bell


In this post we look further at the non-gospel, and misinformation, shared by the Elvis of Emergence Christianity Rob Bell the other day on Twitter.


http://apprising.org/2009/10/rob-bel...es-on-twitter/


http://christianresearchnetwork.com/?p=13522


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http://apprising.org/2009/10/rob-bel...es-on-twitter/

ROB BELL PREACHES ON TWITTER
By Ken Silva pastor-teacher on Oct 1, 2009 in AM Missives, Current Issues, Emergence Christianity, Emergent Church, Features, Rob Bell, Youth Ministry

Those who can’t see the dramatic drift away from orthodox Christianity by Rob Bell, the Elvis of the egregiously ecumenical Emerging Church

aka Emergent Church de-formation of the Christian faith—now morphing into Emergence Christianity (EC)—


just don’t want to see it.


Bell isn’t using innovative methods as an alternative way to reach people with the Gospel; no, he’s using his obvious gifting as a compelling speaker to advance an alternative Gospel.


And Bell was apparently in a mood the other day as he opened up a short sermonette,


which he delivered on Twitter Tuesday:

Ever done an interview and then read it and realized they left out most of what you said? Maddening. (Online source)

You can access the interview Bell’s talking about in the Apprising Ministries post Rob Bell On Faith, Suffering, And “Christians”.


Next in his little Twitter tirade Bell shares:

A bit of history: the word evangelical comes from the Roman Empire propaganda machine- it was an announcement proclaiming Caesar is Lord… (Online source)

No, it doesn’t; Phil Johnson, executive director of John MacArthur’s Grace to You who also blogs at Pyromaniacs shows us where the term “evangelical” actually began:

Historically, the word evangelical first came into widespread usage along with the Protestant Reformation. William Tyndale used the expression “evangelical truth” as a synonym for the gospel. By the 18th century, the adjective was being used to describe “that school of Protestants which maintains that the essence of ‘the Gospel’ consists in the doctrine of salvation by faith in the atoning death of Christ, and denies that either good works or the sacraments have any saving efficacy” (Oxford English Dictionary).

Naturally, as Protestants, evangelicals affirmed both the formal and material principles of the Reformation (sola Scriptura and sola fide). They were also committed to the exclusivity of Christ; believing that His atoning work is the only hope of salvation for sinners. That usage of the term evangelical has been crystal clear for at least two and a half centuries.

In other words, in the historic sense of the word, when we speak of the evangelical movement, we’re speaking of those who share 1) a commitment to the authority and sufficiency of Scripture; 2) a belief in the necessity and the efficacy of Christ’s atoning work; and 3) a profound sense of urgency about getting the gospel message to the uttermost parts of the world. The simplicity of the definition is the very thing that gives clarity to the expression. There is not really much that’s vague about the historic meaning of the term evangelical. (Online source)

But for Bell to continue on with what apologist Chris Rosebrough of Pirate Christian Radio has deemed the gospel of “stick it to the Caesar man” he has to use terms like “the Roman Empire propaganda machine.”



However, it’s actually Rob Bell and the Emergent Apostasy who wields the propaganda machine; as concerning evangelical Bell then muses:

The first Christians took the phrase and tweaked it, saying “Jesus is Lord.” That, of course, could get you killed. No one challenges Caesar (Online source)

Bell carries his fantasy further:

To confess Jesus is Lord was to insist that peace does not come to earth through coercive violence but through sacrificial love… (Online source)

No, wrong again; to confess Jesus is Lord is to say: Jesus is the LORD God Almighty Himself in human flesh. Jesus told us that His true regenerated followers would believe this — “I said therefore to you that you will die in the sins of you; for if you believe not that I Am [the eternal God], you will die in the sins of you” (John 8:24, literal Greek). It’s beyond question from the eyewitness testimony recorded in John’s deposition, aka Gospel of John, that Christ Jesus claims to be the One Who spoke to Moses from burning bush in Exodus 3.



And then Bell closes his sermonette propaganda with something coming straight out of e.g. Living Spiritual Teacher and “Progessive Christian” scholar Marcus Borg:

That is still the question, is it not? Whose way? Jesus or Caesar? Power and might and domination – or bloody, thirsty, hanging on a cross? (Online source)

Make the time to check out the rank heresy in the sermon from his “beloved friend” in Shane Hipps Exposed for more on the non-gospel of these EC dreamers. But you’d best know this: Mainstream evangelicalism embraces another gospel being perpetrated by these mystic myth-purveyors at the eternal peril of its youth and young adults. And don’t believe me; is ok by me, then how about Greg Gilbert of 9 Marks, who recently said this is: Not The Gospel Of Jesus Rob Bell; It’s Not Anywhere Near It.

See also:

IS ROB BELL EVANGELICAL?

ROB BELL IN A NUTSHELL: THE BIBLE

RANK HERESY BEING PREACHED AT MHBC OF ROB BELL

DID ROB BELL FORGET THE CROSS?

ROB BELL ABSOLUTELY WRONG ABOUT SCRIPTURE

THROUGH ROB BELL “THE GREAT ENLIGHTENED ONES” TELL US MAN HAS DIVINE GREATNESS

MARCUS BORG AND ROB BELL: THE BIBLE IS NOT A DIVINE PRODUCT WITH DIVINE FINAL AUTHORITY?



http://apprising.org/2009/10/rob-bel...es-on-twitter/

[Amber Lynne]

I just heard the Greek word totalidiot, is translated Rob Bell.

I love you best today too...you and Hootmon.

[NewWorldOrder]

My Sunday School teacher who is also a leader in my church, is asking for any and all information on Rob Bell. Our church is starting to use his teachings, and my SS teacher doesn't know anything about him. I need videos with commentary, I also need the quotes of him saying God's word isn't the final authority, etc.

This is extremely important. When I do a search here on Rob Bell, I get pages and pages of threads that have the word bell in it. I need everything on Rob Bell with links.

Thanks,
Kathryn

[billiefan2000]

Rob Bell quotes video

[Cherished]

Here is one of the scariest links I have ever seen.

http://www.viddler.com/explore/GoodNewsTo/videos/12/


Thread here:
http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=110759

[NewWorldOrder]

Thank you Cherished, Billiefan!

There's a video somewhere, of a radio personality interviewing Rob Bell. I can't remember his name.....

[Cherished]

Thank you Cherished, Billiefan!

There's a video somewhere, of a radio personality interviewing Rob Bell. I can't remember his name.....

You are more than welcome. Armor up, girl, this is a battlefield.

[His Bride]

http://apprising.org/
http://lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/index.php
http://christianresearchnetwork.com/


These sites could get you started with information.

[NewWorldOrder]

Okay. I've posted lots of things on my FB page.

Thank you everyone!

We'll see what happens next. In case you haven't noticed, I'm pretty vocal about my convictions, online as well as offline.

[His Bride]

Okay. I've posted lots of things on my FB page.

Thank you everyone!

We'll see what happens next. In case you haven't noticed, I'm pretty vocal about my convictions, online as well as offline.

[NarrowRoad]

Here is one of the scariest links I have ever seen.

http://www.viddler.com/explore/GoodNewsTo/videos/12/

Good grief. I don't what else to say.


NR

[fracturedInfinity]

I watched one of his Nooma videos once about a tomato. Supposedly it was supposed to be the most theologically sound Nooma he's made. Even in it there were some red flags poppin for me.

[Joyb0218]

NWO, I will be praying for you as well.

Praying that the SS will be open to the Truth of this man's apostasy.

[eternal]

Here is one of the scariest links I have ever seen.

http://www.viddler.com/explore/GoodNewsTo/videos/12/


Thread here:
http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=110759

Forced myself to listen to the whole thing. Felt kind of like when you get handed a baby that badly needs a diaper change. You feel sorry for the kid, but you really really badly want to get out of there.

I plan to use this in a Sunday School class on discernment I hope to teach in the near future. Should make for some lively up-chucking, ah, I mean discussion.

[rrrrrpitch]

Here is one of the scariest links I have ever seen.

http://www.viddler.com/explore/GoodNewsTo/videos/12/


Thread here:
http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=110759

That guy is such a liar.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...22&version=KJV




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[Nightelf]

My Sunday School teacher who is also a leader in my church, is asking for any and all information on Rob Bell. Our church is starting to use his teachings, and my SS teacher doesn't know anything about him. I need videos with commentary, I also need the quotes of him saying God's word isn't the final authority, etc.

This is extremely important. When I do a search here on Rob Bell, I get pages and pages of threads that have the word bell in it. I need everything on Rob Bell with links.

Thanks,
Kathryn

I emailed you with a bunch of links.

And I missed one...... http://watchwoman.blog.ca/2009/09/21...faith-7007262/ It's about the heresy and blatant lie in the NOOMA video "Dust".

Hope it helps!

[Nightelf]

Here is one of the scariest links I have ever seen.

http://www.viddler.com/explore/GoodNewsTo/videos/12/


Thread here:
http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=110759

Yeah, that video is atrocious.

It should be used as a teaching tool, of how NOT to give the Gospel.

[lisaann]

I emailed you with a bunch of links.

And I missed one...... http://watchwoman.blog.ca/2009/09/21...faith-7007262/ It's about the heresy and blatant lie in the NOOMA video "Dust".

Hope it helps!

Would you mind pming them to me as well? Our new youth leader loves Bell so I need a good solid case against him when the times comes that he want's to use his materials in our church.

[Nightelf]

Would you mind pming them to me as well? Our new youth leader loves Bell so I need a good solid case against him when the times comes that he want's to use his materials in our church.

Done