"BIBLE THUMPER"
I can't get my mind around this that all children will be raptured, even though
that's what I want to believe.
All humanity started out as infants, some choosing to deny Christ. What I can't
get my mind around is the fact that some of those children may have made the
same decision if they lived until adulthood instead of being raptured.
The Lord can't bless what you don't invest.
Please pray for my daughter Lindsey to seek a relationship with Jesus while he may still be found.
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Exactly. Past behavior predicts future behavior. We have only to read the Bible. God will stay true to character. He doesn't have justify anything to us. He's God. He decides what's right. We don't. If He doesn't rapture all children and mentally handicapped, who are we to judge Him?Originally Posted by Brinkley
There will be children born during the tribulation, but it will be increasingly difficult to give birth at this time, because of the restrictions on parents having children (the OWG, like the Chinese government, will dictate on how many children parents would be able to have or if they can have any at all)- they will destroy all other children in and out of the womb. Also, because of the natural catastrophes and lack of health care and facilities- childbearing will be extremely difficult and painful.
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1 Corinthians 7:14: "For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband; otherwise your children would be unclean, but now they are holy."
Does this mean if only one spouse believes the other is saved? I take it that it must literally mean that, as being married you are considered as one.
When He was on the cross, You were on His mind.
Worry looks around, sorry looks back, Faith looks up.
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I agree!
Proverbs 3:5-6 "Trust in the Lord, with all your heart, and lean not to your own understanding. But in all your ways, acknowldge Him, and He will direct your path."
George Washington on 9/17/1796 "It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and the Bible."
Waiting to see your face, Lord! Trying to be patient!
I always thought that piece of scripture meant that the marriage itself was sanctified and the household....it is not a salvation issue....that is an individual choice we have to make....as believers with unbelieving spouses, we cannot save them just because we are married to them.
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Thanks for your input... I never thought of that.
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I agree with you. Hal Lindsey was talking about this also, on 10/17 and if you can skip to 4:40 minuites of this program you will get right to what we are talking about.The gathering together (rapture) is a promise to the Church. We who are born again, well, it says in Corinthians that our children are sanctified by the believing of the parents, but as to unbeliever's kids, they are not sanctified nor are they in the Church body, however, I think because of the age of accountability issue, they will probably be with our Lord upon death.
There is a great article regarding this by Lamb and Lion Ministries (David Reagan's Ministry). I'll see if I can find it.
I personally want to believe that all children will be in the rapture, but as the above poster stated, it just is not biblical.
http://www.hallindsey.com/videos/
I am sorry I don't know how to play a certain part so it would make it easier on everyone. I hope this helps.
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As someone who hates abortion, it would be poetic justice if no woman could get pregnant during the tribulation, but of course we really don't know for sure. I realize that not every sinner is for abortion, but sadly it is usually only Christians who are willing to publicly oppose abortion.
betty
I will take the Lord at His word. What does "sanctify" and "holy" mean?
IMHO, I believe that because we are in the age of grace, children under the age of accountability will be raptured since they are innocent and have not been poisoned with adult reasoning or nonreasoning if you will. I cannot imagine any children who cannot yet discern the difference will be condemned for eternity. I know God knows what they would have ended up like and maybe that is how he will decide, but in the meantime, they have not grown up yet, if they are not exposed to such condemnation, than maybe the Lord knows they will not end up that way because they will be in his Kingdom and remain innocent. He says the Kingdom of Heaven belongs to those such as the little ones. Maybe children living under the law are just unfortunate in the fact that they do not get to enjoy the grace our Lord has provided us now.
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If you go to the Greek it is clearer, to me at least, that salvation isn't included in this particular passage. Sanctify; Hagiazo = to separate from profane things and dedicate to God, or purify. Holy; Hagios = holy thing (as compared to "unclean" in the context of the verse which is Akathartos, or uncleansed).
God makes the children of one unbeliever and a believer legitimate, and makes the marriage valid in His eyes because of the believing spouse. Also, salvation is presented as an individual issue in other scripture, so cannot contradict. I think this verse hints at the fact that the believing spouse is in a valid marriage, and the marriage can and will be used by God even though one member is an unbeliever.
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Unsaved children
I would love to be excited about the rapture. I love Jesus so much and I want to meet him face to face. But how can I be excited about the rapture knowing that my 35 year old son...my first born...who knows the truth and was raised in a Christian home, has completely rejected the Lord and wants nothing to do with Him? I can't even talk to him about Jesus or the end times. I know what lies ahead for him. My HEART is broken!!! So once again I ask...how can I be happy about the Rapture which I know will take place at any time now?
Love, Razorweezl
Our King loves us so much that He will not let His children be lost from the fold. Trust in Him with your whole heart. Let Him give you comfort on this issue as you continue to pray for your son and his salvation. You may not see his repentance during your lifetime, but God does hear and grant the petitions of His children. Instead of being worried about his future here on a post-tribulation Earth, try rejoicing and praising Him for the miracle that has yet to happen in your sons' life. I know it is hard to see your children turn away from believing or out right scoff and deny Gods' existance...I have three of my own, and two of them cause me to ponder potential futures. Christ does not want any of his followers to grieve, I'm sure. Have faith...patience...lots of prayer...let go, and let God. In His love, ~CS
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It's reasons like this I don't mind if I don't see the rapture in my lifetime. He was longsuffering with me, and He can certainly be longsuffering with others after me.
Keep your son in prayer for salvation. Never give that up.
There seems to be a theme in the Bible, and that is the Lord is in the business of saving households. Through the OT, and even with Paul.
Believe on the Lord Jesus and thou shalt be saved, and thy household.
Keep on praying. He's listening. Hold fast, and take comfort. In many cases, it may just take longer than we'd like for someone's salvation.
I know the feeling though, only in my case, the person is a little younger. We may very well be surprised with delight one day.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Oh dear one! I know your pain so well. My 36 year old son and his entire family are lost and refuse to hear so much as a whisper about God. It is understandable that we have some trepidation about them where the Rapture is concerned. But, I trust God completely and I know that whatever happens is going to be allright. Heaven is my home and that's all my own salvation guarantees to me. We all have to come to Jesus one on one and my son is no different. Keep praying for your son and please remember mine when you do.
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Perhaps the rapture will be that life-changing event that will bring him/them to a saving knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ. If yes, they may not be spared the tribulation, but they will be saved for eternity, which will be much longer.
All children will be raptured I think under the age of 12. Basically, if they don't know right from wrong. But, when they start to understand right from wrong and they don't accept Christ I think they will be left behind.
Job 19:25
Children and the Rapture
Okay, I know this has been discussed but I just can't quit dwelling on it and going around in circles about it without coming to any kind of conclusion.
What is going to be the explanation of all the missing children after the rapture - not just some missing children but all of them? There are boundless explanations the world will give for missing adults which may seem reasonable to many people but how is the phenomenon that all the children are gone going to be explained by the world and to the world?
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Job 19:25
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It may be that all children disappear, but this is merely conjecture. There is nothing in the Bible that I know of that says that all children will disappear in the rapture. I think it is assumed based on the doctrine of the age of accountability.
I kind of believe that all children below that age (which may vary from child to child) will disappear though. I am sure some sort of explanation will be given. Remember that there will be a strong delusion...
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