Christian Wiccan Epidemic

[Anddra]

Originally Posted by Amber Lynne

I have a friend, Kristy who says she is a Christian Wiccan. She says "God is in everything" and she "feels guilty if she prays and doesn't offer God anything, so she will light a candle or something." I told her that all God wants is her, but she didn't listen I worry about her, but she isn't worried...she thinks her Baptist upbringing will save her. Please help me pray for her...

[waiting1]

you are both so right! Those who practice such are most likely Christian in name only.

A born again Christian would get some very HARSH CHASTISEMENT if they dabbled in Wicca!!!

And God would almost certainly convict them so hard of thier sin they would have to quit.

[HappyChicken]

A few years ago I dabbled in the Wicca stuff...I even was enrolled in a class to become a white witch with a particular coven. I was going thru alot at the time and was not coping well, and was not in church or reading the Bible. I never denied Jesus, but I was open to "magic." I was impressed with what I thought were gifts that other people had...I was seeking and in emotional and spiritual pain. THANK GOD I GOT OUT!

There is aftermath of "going there." I still have an attraction to rocks and the "qualities" they supposedly have. I still have an attraction to different metaphysical stuff....stuff most consider harmless...like Reiki...meditation... and I miss listening to the music of a particular pagan band that i liked. I even feel guilty drinking herbal teas sometimes. I think that the main problem with the "softer side" of witchcraft is that you are putting you faith in something other than Jesus...even if you think you are a Christian.. you are placing faith elsewhere.

When people tell me that they think that labyrinths are harmless and nothing against God, I ask them what they are doing when they are walking that labyrinth... You walk into it with burdens, and you leave them in the center and walk out refreshed.... That's putting faith in something else....You should, instead, be praying to Jesus to forgive you and remove your burdens and then be renewed. So there IS harm in simply walking one of those things. I could go on for hours about this stuff. My early adulthood was rough...I went from being Mormon, to going to a oneness pentecostal church...then to Wicca. You really have to be careful what you allow into your heart. You may be able to move on from it...but you've still been exposed.

[SPYDYR]

Originally Posted by HappyChicken

A few years ago I dabbled in the Wicca stuff...I even was enrolled in a class to become a white witch with a particular coven. I was going thru alot at the time and was not coping well, and was not in church or reading the Bible. I never denied Jesus, but I was open to "magic." I was impressed with what I thought were gifts that other people had...I was seeking and in emotional and spiritual pain. THANK GOD I GOT OUT!

There is aftermath of "going there." I still have an attraction to rocks and the "qualities" they supposedly have. I still have an attraction to different metaphysical stuff....stuff most consider harmless...like Reiki...meditation... and I miss listening to the music of a particular pagan band that i liked. I even feel guilty drinking herbal teas sometimes. I think that the main problem with the "softer side" of witchcraft is that you are putting you faith in something other than Jesus...even if you think you are a Christian.. you are placing faith elsewhere.

When people tell me that they think that labyrinths are harmless and nothing against God, I ask them what they are doing when they are walking that labyrinth... You walk into it with burdens, and you leave them in the center and walk out refreshed.... That's putting faith in something else....You should, instead, be praying to Jesus to forgive you and remove your burdens and then be renewed. So there IS harm in simply walking one of those things. I could go on for hours about this stuff. My early adulthood was rough...I went from being Mormon, to going to a oneness pentecostal church...then to Wicca. You really have to be careful what you allow into your heart. You may be able to move on from it...but you've still been exposed.

I know a guy personally who used to use runic letters for their protections. He could spout off the top of his head nearly any principle, idea, or concept of witchcraft with ease. He used to collect the books, had a whole set of "tools" and went as far as to cleverly hide talismen all around him. He denied all religions, ironically. Was almost more of a devout athiest than a witch. He knew the routines, the methods, and the supply lists. Kept his lil book on the top shelf of his bookcase. He prayed nightly to his gods. Astral projections, meditations, and candles were the norm.

He kept it so well hid that even in highschool nobody knew at all. Even more alarming was the fact nobody would have caught on when they went into his room.

6 years later and I still find bits and pieces of my old life stashed away. I don't miss him at all. I like who I am today. I like that I don't have to hide anything. I like not getting that cold shiver when I would quote those rancid poems. I like knowing that Jesus and not Satan is listening to my everyword. I like the comfort the L-rd has given me!

Halloween may just be a candy day to some but I know its bittersweet temptations are far from subtle to some.

[chrisb01]

Originally Posted by Amber Lynne

Yes! He said he just wanted everybody to know that Billie Jean was NOT his lover...

Yeah, I love it...good one...

[Ready4theRapture]

Originally Posted by Amber Lynne

Yes! He said he just wanted everybody to know that Billie Jean was NOT his lover...

I almost spewed coffee all over my monitor!!

[saved by Grace]

Originally Posted by Amber Lynne

I have a friend, Kristy who says she is a Christian Wiccan. She says "God is in everything" and she "feels guilty if she prays and doesn't offer God anything, so she will light a candle or something." I told her that all God wants is her, but she didn't listen I worry about her, but she isn't worried...she thinks her Baptist upbringing will save her. Please help me pray for her...

ing in agreement

[Amber Lynne]

Originally Posted by chrisb01

Yeah, I love it...good one...

Originally Posted by Ready4theRapture

I almost spewed coffee all over my monitor!!

I was wondering if anybody was gonna even see that reply.

[vhowell]

I was a Wiccan for my teen years into adulthood till I found the Lord. You can see my testimony on YouTube at Spooky Memories of Life before Christ. 1 Tim 1:15 "Christ came in to the world to save sinners - and I was the worst!!!..."

I went to a church the WHOLE time I was dabbling in wicca, but it was an Episcopal church - they NEVER taught on salvation or a personal relationship with Christ. I was even ON THE ALTAR GUILD, laying out the Sacraments and everything while I was a Wiccan. Ugh...So people took communion from the Cup I laid out with my wiccan hands....horrible now that I think of it....
My mom didn't have a personal relationship with Christ so she saw nothing wrong with what I was doing, and even ASKED me to do spells for her....and her dad was an Episcopal Priest.... Traditional religions are pretty safe for wiccans, because there is no preaching of salvation, hell, etc. Just say those rote prayers over and over...........

Wiccans dont believe in Satan, or demons per se. They believe in the lord and lady/ god and godess, and various nature things. These are the reasons that they can think they can be a Christian and a Wiccan at the same time. Satan has blinded thier eyes to the truth and they have believed the lie. Next time you are in a conversation with a wiccan, ask them "do you believe in evil?" they will probably say 'no'. Then ask, 'so why do you draw a 'circle of protection' at the beginning of a ritual if there is no evil?' . Then see what they say.

No these people are not wicked and evil, they are deceived and in need of a Savior. MOST come from dysfunctional families and are hurting people. I am friends with an ex-satanist right now and she had a really hard time over Halloween. Demons came an messed with her, because she is a brand-new believer and doesn't know about her authority in Christ yet. So even after wiccans/pagans come to know the Lord they still need compassion and most of all they need to go through a program like Cleansing streams or a good delieverance ministry to clean off anything that MAY be clinging to them. They also need to do an inventory such as what Neil ANderson has in his 'Steps to Freedom in Christ" and renounce everything they did or were involved in. They gave legal ground to satan before Christ and they may still have some "soul squatters" hanging around.

Another excellent resource are the books "Defeating Dark Angels" by Charles Kraft and "Liberating the Bruised" by Dr. Joe Allbright.

Hope that helps someone. Walking in victory is sooo worth it!! God is amazing and His compassion never fails.

[Trance]

Originally Posted by vhowell

Traditional religions are pretty safe for wiccans, because there is no preaching of salvation, hell, etc. Just say those rote prayers over and over.

Many religions tend to stress more on 'ceramony' and less on The Lord.

[lyngraphics]

Originally Posted by MidwestMama

Not to get too far off track here... but why do we want to avoid the Bakugan toys?? I don't know much about them at all... my DS isn't into them, doesn't even know about them, I don't think.... but I know my nephew plays with them and had a discussion with a friend today whose son has gotten into them, so just curious...

Cris

My son like the Bakugan toys also...

[God's Lamb]

Originally Posted by FrankBeMe

I could never figure that out either. People are searching, they know something is missing but they don't want the responsibilities involved in being Christian, things like absolute truth and sin. Wicca solves that...you do whatever you want as long as you don't harm anyone else. What's right for someone might not be what is right for you and vice-versa.

I've heard of people trying to practice a combination of wicca and Christianity, but never met any who tried. It's impossible to do since they're completely incompatible...I'm not certain, but maybe they see that as some sort of justification to practice something most people think is wacky and weird..which it is, but there's so much more to it than being wacky...it's evil.

I have meet those who practiced witchcraft and claimed to be Christians. Some belonged to the same church that I went to for awhile....it was an Episcopalian Church.

One of the elders was a practicing witch, who called himself a "warlock"....one of his daughters was also a witch. She was high priestess to a local coven, which her father belonged, for he was the one who brought her up in the ways of "witchcraft". His step daughter, never knew of the dark secrets of her sister and father until after she was married and moved back to Washington.

I had accepted Jesus Christ when I was a little girl, but had wandered into the New Age. Why? Searching for the "absolute truth", at the time there seemed to be so many out there (this was in the mid sixties). After an encounter with an "enity", I called up a friend who I knew was a Christian, and asked to go to church with her. The elder at the door greeted me. He said,"You're one of us", as he shook my hand. I quickly withdrew my hand, and replied, "No, I'm not." And stared at him. Then I walked to the coffe area.

Weeks later he told me he was a "warlock" and I told him I knew he was not speaking about Christians when he said, I was one of them. I told him I'm a Christian and I want no part of his beliefs.

I told my friend, and she said, don't speak of it to anyone. I don't think she believed me, so I didn't speak out about it. Several years later in a Bible Study class that my friend was teaching, this man spoke up about being a "witch" and a practicing "warlock". My friend's mouth became "slackjawed" along with everyone else in the room except for my mother and father and myself.

There were several other people in the church who were witchs.

Witches usually come to break up the Churches, so I've been told by them. He claimed to be curious about Christianity, he died in a fire in his apartment, and the only thing that wasn't burnt was the Church money that he was in charge of at the time. He had an alter in his apartment which was burnt.

His daughter, who was a witch, died a couple of years after his death. The coven that they were both in, decided to form back up again. The head high priest had moved back to Washington and wanted her as the High Priestess. She was refused. They told her they would murder her nephew, unless she came back. She was found dead in her bedroom they said it was sucide. But, her sister and I believe they murdered her. It's a long story.

The other witch was still at the church when I left the church. I've never been back except for people's funerals. My friend left, but later came back to the church. I move on, and I'm glad I did, the Episcopal Church, was becoming more and more corrupt with God's Word, and on other levels.

Over the years I met with several "warlocks"....who came out of the "craft".
Two practiced "black magic"....they called upon Satan. One was on the verge of going into the "black magic" but was turn into the cops for drugs by his wife. He said, they do, human sacrifice. Where he was headed for Mexico for the "human sacrifice" when his wife turned him in. He said, it was a blessing. That's when he found Jesus, and now works with police around the world, helping them with Ritual Crime.

They all told me there are circles within circles in Witchcraft.....depending where you're at......you may just worship nature or if you like the power and others see your abilites then you are asked to come into another level or circle. In the end, you call upon Satan....for your powers.

There are placed in Washington where people disapear where there is witchcraft being practiced.....dark, evil stuff goes on. I'v heard that police officers won't even go to those places.

God Bless <><

[Rebecca S]

@ God's Lamb. Are you talking about Washington State? I just moved here from Texas this summer and was shocked by the almost palpable spiritual void. My mother and I remarked on it almost instantly. Sometimes when I go somewhere I instantly feel empty inside and have to leave as soon as possible. The school I'm attending is filled with witchcraft, even openly performing shaman rituals. O_O Sometimes I feel like I'm living in the land of Babylon. I'm absolutely shocked by the people who call themselves Christian, usually from a Catholic background, and yet consult shamans, clairvoyant healers, psychics, pray to angels, etc. I always thought this was stuff of books, not things people really did.