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Israel, The Middle East, Gog & Magog Breaking news and events from Israel and the Middle East. The Coming War of Gog and Magog. Ezekiel 38 through 39 tells of a future invasion of Israel by a vast coalition of nations that surround it. As we read the headlines in the newspapers, and witness the conflict in the Middle East, it's not hard to imagine that this invasion prophesied over 2600 years ago, could be fulfilled in our lifetime.

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Old November 3rd, 2009, 04:25 AM
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"Such an agreement, Barak said Tuesday, will include a "viable Palestinian State" and the end of Israeli sovereignty in Judea and Samaria."

"According to Barak, the Obama administration will be expected to promote the agreed-upon draft to Abbas, in an effort to kick-start Israel-PA talks."

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Old November 3rd, 2009, 06:29 AM
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I just can't take this at face value. Bibi know this will expose abbas for who he really is. A terrorist. He knows this won't fly, and is just going through the motions as to humor bammy. No way he would subject the people of Israel to this kind of threat. Just a dog and pony show IMHO.
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I just can't take this at face value. Bibi know this will expose abbas for who he really is. A terrorist. He knows this won't fly, and is just going through the motions as to humor bammy. No way he would subject the people of Israel to this kind of threat. Just a dog and pony show IMHO.
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I am sure more than we think or not think is going down.

Maybe BIBI feels he should appear to be friendly and submissive so when the terrorist totally screw up. Israel will be 100% justified in their action to drop one.
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The ONLY reason Israel is making 'peace overtures' week is because they have an agreement with the USA to bomb Iran in the next 60 days and they're just making nice to the rest of the Arab world before they do it. The Pals will reject the deal and the peace talks, just as Israel and the Usa knows. End of story....and where's the popcorn?

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Old November 3rd, 2009, 09:26 AM
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I just can't take this at face value. Bibi know this will expose abbas for who he really is. A terrorist. He knows this won't fly, and is just going through the motions as to humor bammy. No way he would subject the people of Israel to this kind of threat. Just a dog and pony show IMHO.
Agree completely. Everything I've seen so far says Bibi is so far ahead of B0 mentally, its child's play.....in a serious life & death game. No way Abbas can refuse on the world stage or accept and exist at home.
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The ONLY reason Israel is making 'peace overtures' week is because they have an agreement with the USA to bomb Iran in the next 60 days and they're just making nice to the rest of the Arab world before they do it. The Pals will reject the deal and the peace talks, just as Israel and the Usa knows. End of story....and where's the popcorn?

I guess I haven't been keeping up. What agreement was made to bomb Iran in the next 60 days?
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I guess I haven't been keeping up. What agreement was made to bomb Iran in the next 60 days?
Just speculation, but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised. Israel simply doesn't have the luxury of waiting much longer.
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I just can't take this at face value. Bibi know this will expose abbas for who he really is. A terrorist. He knows this won't fly, and is just going through the motions as to humor bammy. No way he would subject the people of Israel to this kind of threat. Just a dog and pony show IMHO.
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The only real Israeli concession that would be accepted is if Israel were to disappear.

This deal goes against scripture from all I can tell. Isa 11, Isa 41, Obediah, Jer 49, Mic 4, and Eze 37.
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This is getting comical. I'm shocked the Palestinian Authority is this oblivious. Have they no idea they are about to be bombed? Israel has never and will never agree to an arrangement like the one we are seeing. This is clearly a cover to stall world politics until a strike can be finalized. Any peace deal for Israel right now means complete loss of sovereingty. They will cease to exist as we know them, and this is unbiblical. Something is going to happen soon.


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This silly "peace" process has been going on for almost a decade now. How much longer can they possibly keep this going? It is like being on a merry-go-round you can't get off of.

You keep seeing and doing the same thing over and over and over, but nothing ever changes or gets better. One side has to win over the other to make it end.

Bibi has said all along that Israel will give up Samaria and Judea. I believe he really means it. Imagine that Israel goes to war with the Palestinians and they wipe out everyone in Samaria and Judea. They would not want their people living among the Palestinians when that happens.

Sharon said that is the reason he made the Jews leave Gaza. When Israel gives up all their land except for Tel-Aviv and the Pals still attack, then Israel will eventually let them have it. For good!
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The ONLY reason Israel is making 'peace overtures' week is because they have an agreement with the USA to bomb Iran in the next 60 days and they're just making nice to the rest of the Arab world before they do it. The Pals will reject the deal and the peace talks, just as Israel and the Usa knows. End of story....and where's the popcorn?

Please provide us your reference for this. I read and follow this a pretty close and have not heard a whisper about this.

Besides, it seems totally contrary to this spineless creature inhabiting the White House.
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Just speculation, but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised. Israel simply doesn't have the luxury of waiting much longer.
I've heard some people say it won't be much longer before Israel attacks Iran-I just didn't know about a 60 day agreement I can't really see Obama agreeing to this either.....
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This silly "peace" process has been going on for almost a decade now. How much longer can they possibly keep this going? It is like being on a merry-go-round you can't get off of.

You keep seeing and doing the same thing over and over and over, but nothing ever changes or gets better. One side has to win over the other to make it end.

Bibi has said all along that Israel will give up Samaria and Judea. I believe he really means it. Imagine that Israel goes to war with the Palestinians and they wipe out everyone in Samaria and Judea. They would not want their people living among the Palestinians when that happens.

Sharon said that is the reason he made the Jews leave Gaza. When Israel gives up all their land except for Tel-Aviv and the Pals still attack, then Israel will eventually let them have it. For good!
Plenty has been changing my friend...plenty...all the other pieces of the puzzle have been being put in place to other things that are and have to come with this so called peace that will be shortly lived!
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As for me, I could care less about what man decides. It is the will of God; His purpose, and His plan will prevail!!!!!!!!! Amen and Hallelujah to the return of Jesus Christ,
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Please provide us your reference for this. I read and follow this a pretty close and have not heard a whisper about this.

Besides, it seems totally contrary to this spineless creature inhabiting the White House.
I think it's pure speculation, besides i dont think Israel would give out such evidence. There have been plenty of articles with time frames, but the exact time frame, no one knows. There was an article back about Israel waiting until December for Obama to do something.
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I think it's pure speculation, besides i dont think Israel would give out such evidence. There have been plenty of articles with time frames, but the exact time frame, no one knows. There was an article back about Israel waiting until December for Obama to do something.
Yes, that' what bothered me greatly. It was said as if it were fact.
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Seems to me in the article that Barak is doing all the talking! Why is he there, he is the Defense Minister - shouldn't it be the Foreign Minister Lieberman with Bibi? Or the Vice PM Moshe Ya'alon?
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