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Old November 3rd, 2009, 04:09 PM
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I had never heard of this game, but a friend's kid plays it. Here's an interesting article about it. Draw your own conclusions.

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One day," so the Bakugan story goes, "cards began to fall from the sky and were picked up by kids all over the world. The cards featured different characters, different environments, and different powers. ...these cards actually corresponded to an alternate world called Vestroia."[4]

"...we invented a wicked new game we called Bakugan," explained the leader of Vestoria's young Battle Brawlers. "That's when the power of the cards was revealed. Each one held its own battling beast.... The battles were intense, and if you chose the wrong card, you lost it and the beast inside."[5]

"...the beast inside!" Those words brought to mind some troubling email letters I've received from embattled teens and young adults. Like the Canadian women, they actually felt as if they had uncontrollable beasts inside. Their descriptions of inner battles -- the nightmarish consequences of obsession with occult role-playing games -- were heartbreaking. They couldn't stop playing -- or block out the frightening images planted in their minds! Nor could they find faithful Christians in their communities who would guide them toward freedom!

Too late, they discovered that the seductive journey into occult bondage is far smoother than the road back out to freedom. Yet, few see the dangers of the following progression:

1. Commanding supernatural power through the imagination.

2. Craving more dark thrills -- while increasingly bored with actual reality.

3. Suffering the mental, emotional and spiritual consequences of trusting the occult.[6]

Post-Christian blindness

The Bible tells us that "the weapons of our warfare are... mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God." (2 Corinthians 10:4-5) Our main weapon, of course, is the "Sword of the Spirit, the Word of God." Our children need to know His Word, then exercise faith in His timeless guidelines. But those truths are fast fading from the public square, and deceptions -- more enticing, acceptable and pervasive than ever -- are filling the gap!

The weapons used by Bakugan warriors are totally contrary to God's ways. Based on the ancient Chinese force called Ch'i, they flow from the same source as every other occult weapon. Ch'i (or Ki, Prana, etc.) is merely the Eastern label for the spiritual forces once commanded by Canaanite sorcerers, Babylonian magicians, mediaeval alchemists, and secret societies throughout history.[7]

Their magic is linked to the forcefulness of the human will. It involves mental concentration and firm commands that enable occultists to "cast spells" and "do magic" without hesitation or moral consideration.

Magic is easy, according to Wiccan author Starhawk, founder of the Covenant of the Goddess. All it takes is "four basic abilities: relaxation, concentration, visualization, and projection."[8] The last step means projecting energy by moving one's mental images with the human will and imagination.

The signs and symbols of magic

Notice the tension between opposing powers in this description of Bakugan's cosmos:

"Vestroia is a vast dimension comprised of [six]... worlds: Fire, Earth, Light, Darkness, Water and Wind. At the very centre of this universe there are two opposing energy cores: THE INFINITY CORE, the source of all positive energy, and THE SILENT CORE, the source of all negative energy. Throughout history, these two opposing forces had maintained the balance of equilibrium..."[4]

Notice how this philosophy clashes with God's Truth: There is no balance or equilibrium between the eternal Kingdom of our holy God and Satan's temporary domain!

Yet two symbols illustrate the lie: the quartered circle and the yin yang. You may remember the "sacred circle" of Wiccan and Native American spirituality. Its four dividing lines point from the center to the "spirits" of the north, east, south, and west -- and to the four basic elements: fire, earth, water and wind (or air).

Those "spirits" are similar to Vestoria's spiritual domains.
Their connections to China's blend of Taoism, Confucianism, Buddhism, and folk religions are described in An Encyclopedia of Religion:

"The eternal oscillation of yin and yang gives rise to the material universe through their Five Agents of Water, Fire, Wood, Metal, and Earth.... The religious movement flourishing from the first century B.C. to the fourth century A.D. ... involved divination, alchemy, and the belief in immortals..."[10]

"Taoism is a rich reservoir of superstitions. It has... incorporated and elaborated divination... fortune telling, witchcraft, astrology, communication with the dead, and many others.... [It ] relies on charms and magic formulas."[10]

Does that remind you of God's warning in Deuteronomy 18:9-14? It tells us to shun all those practices. Don't even imagine them!

"You shall not learn to follow the abominations of those nations. There shall not be found among you anyone who ... practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. For all who do these things are an abomination to the Lord..."

"They... walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart..." Jeremiah 7:24

Eastern and Western occultism have mingled for at least two millennia. But what used to be a trickle has now become a flood. Even churches are welcoming the mysteries that secret societies and Taoist alchemists once hid so well.

Westerners raised in a "safe" Christian culture tend to discount the source of these powers. America, like Europe, has conveniently shut its eyes to occult realities that faded from sight with the spread of Christianity. Now those dark realities are returning with a vengeance.[11] [See "How the occult is changing the Church"]

Deceptive light and inconceivable darkness

The Bakugan universe is divided into six domains -- each represented by a corresponding symbol. These domains break down into three sets of yin-yang opposites: Fire and Earth, Light and Darkness, Water and Wind [or air]. Each has a corresponding symbol: Red for "Fire" and black for "Darkness." "Light" is linked to a white pentacle inside a circle. These three examples alone should raise concerns about the tempting values taught to young fans:

Fire [Pyrus]: The Red Bakugan. "[Dan is] Obsessed with being the number one Bakugan Brawler in the world... His guardian Dragonoid (...Drago - pictured) is a force to be reckoned.... The Pyrus player will use every avenue open to them to crush you...."

Darkness: The Black Bakugan. "They thrive on battles hidden in the shadows, for this is where they draw their strength.... Once a Bakugan is sucked into the Doom Dimension, there is no coming back.... The bottom line is, Darkus is evil but fun."

Light [Haos]: The White Bakugan. "With this power, the Haos Bakugan have mastered the rare and unique ability to manipulate and control light and energy, leaving their opponents dazed and defeated."[12]

The six symbols are shown in a complex circular symbol similar to an image [pictured here] from a kabalistic Tarot card in a deck designed by the infamous occultist, Aleister Crowley. While Crowley's six discs have different meanings, both of these complex symbols [Bakugan's and Crowley's] place the six discs on the edges of a six-sided hexagon -- a shape common to kabalistic art.[13]
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 04:25 PM
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wow, good article. Thank you.
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Never heard of this game..... what platform is it? Is it an online RRPG or like a Nintendo game?

Good article......
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Never heard of this game..... what platform is it? Is it an online RRPG or like a Nintendo game?

Good article......
It's a cartoon and also toys... cards come with the toys. They are these little balls that pop out (like a puzzle) when you put it on a magnetic card. My son likes the toys... I play with him sometimes. He is 5, so basically he likes watching the toy pop open and then, as boys will do, the toys "fight" each other.
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It a card battler type of game> I found some links with more info on them


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakugan_Battle_Brawlers

http://www.gamestop.com/browse/searc...al&Ntt=Bakugan
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Ahhhhh gotcha!

Another one of those "card games". I remember when my youngest was into those and there was another card game that was all the rage..... trying to remember the name of it. Was it Yugioh? Or something else?

Shopping malls would even host tournaments and kids from all over would come and play this card game... it was actually an excellent battle strategy game, but I didn't like the spiritual/occultic overtones so eventually I did the "mean mommy" thing and persuaded him to give up the game and get rid of the cards. He did it "willingly" but it took him a long time for him to forgive me for making him give it up, even though I explained my reasons to him.

What I noticed about these Bakugan cards was the typical anime tactic of putting little girl faces on big girl bodies, if you know what I mean. Sexualization of children, is what it is. It's sick, especially when the game is aimed at kids as young as 7.
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It sad that even children's games are so corrupted. Our culture tells us that children are innocent but yet our world attempts to fill their minds with such filth!

My younger ones would always beg for toys like this they would see on tv, the requests grew eventually to nothing once we got rid of out tv.
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Similar stuff exists in LEGO - Bionicle and Magic Cards.

I'm having some serious discussions with DS right now as far as Bionicle. It takes a while for him to see it. Pray for all kids playing with this stuff and no one to tell them about the hidden junk inside.
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Similar stuff exists in LEGO - Bionicle and Magic Cards.

I'm having some serious discussions with DS right now as far as Bionicle. It takes a while for him to see it. Pray for all kids playing with this stuff and no one to tell them about the hidden junk inside.
What's up with Bioncles? My DS plays with them. He likes to assemble them (he likes to work with his hands) and combine the parts from different ones to make different figures. He pretends to have battles with them. Please let me know what the problem is with them.
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Berit Kjos has great resources (among others like Dave Benoit) that expose many of these things. But the sad thing is that church attending parents are often asleep at the wheel; even after hearing these things are of the occult and Scripturally off limits.
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As long as the kid knows that the game/toy is just fiction/fantasy, and not reality, then they'll be fine. No offense, but I think some of you guys are overreacting just a little bit.

I grew up playing with toys like this (I believe someone mentioned Yugioh, which I was hooked on for awhile), and I turned out just fine, so did many other people. It's not like your kid is going to run out into the forest and perform some sort of dark witchcraft ritual.

This reminds me of that time when someone on here was insisting that reading The Chronicles of Narnia leads to drug addiction.
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Diane,

Of themselves they are simply toys.

But if you have read the comics, seen the video games, seen the movie, it simply reeks of Taoism/paganism. Even the little "Advisors" are called Toa. Notice the colors -elements similar to wicca/ eastern religions:

Red - fire
White - ice
Green - plants
Blue - water
Brown - earth
Black - rock

In the movie, the characters battle - perfect good vs perfect evil -
(Ying-Yang anyone) and combine into a final supreme character who turns out to be.....good? All the while finding, empowered, or being controlled by special masks.
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Similar stuff exists in LEGO - Bionicle and Magic Cards.

I'm having some serious discussions with DS right now as far as Bionicle. It takes a while for him to see it. Pray for all kids playing with this stuff and no one to tell them about the hidden junk inside.
Oh no lego is to streal your soul. Give me a break
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Bayonetta is even more demonic. I dont want to post links because it contains alot of sexual innuendo and nudity from the female main character. Its for PS3 and Xbox 360. According to the Japanese game director the game's premise is you play as a witch who is taking revenge against Heaven because they killed off her clan in the witch hunts. He also said he wanted to put a twist on the classic good and evil plot. Bayonetta the witch=good and angels= bad. It's really bad and blasphemous I could say. Heavy occultism in the game aswell. She also summons demons by casting spells that open portals for the demons to come out of and her hair actually becomes the demon she summons. If she doesnt kill a certain amount of angels then she will get dragged to Hell. The Opening intro is even more blasphemous as she is dressed like a nun in a graveyard reading out of a book that appears to be the Bible and then she says a prayer to God and then angelic music plays and angels come down from the sky and then she begins to float towards the angels as they are coming down from the sky and she makes a portal and goes through it and she reveals her true self and kills the angels. You also collect halos from the angels as currency to make magic more powerful and enhance weapons. They mention God, Revelation, Heaven and Hell and Purgatory throughout the game. The Boss is possibly even worse it's actually female version of God you have to fight. At first I thought this game was a regular fast paced action game but then I heard the concept and I became really angry. It's stupid japanese anime flair all through the game so the game is really ridiculous.

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let not forget ea pr stunt they pull during e3.
The protesters railing against EA for the game Dante's Inferno were part of a marketing scheme, reports the Associated Press. A viral marketing agency hired by EA reportedly organized the stunt, and hired about 20 people to picket the game. After it was picked up by the blogs, several began to question whether the protest was legitimate based on an amateurish Web site and anonymous domain registration. EA spokesperson Holly Rockwood confirmed it today.
We would question the wisdom of marketing that associates your company with either religious extremists or the Antichrist, but maybe that's why we don't work in advertising.

I got this form 1up.com I would post a link but most of comments are very drity
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Moses was given very clear instruction in Leviticus about witchcraft, etc and they continue even to our modern day; and to me especially for this modern day.
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Mac,

Hopefully you agree, The devil already has the souls of thoses who do not know Jesus as Savior. He simply fights to keep what is already his.

As for toys, I see little in the toy itself, however knowledge of the stuff mixed ito the games, comics, etc is important and helps us "train up our children".

As for giving you a break, which leg?
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Plus the show stinks too.
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Plus the show stinks too.


But yeah, seriously...it does have many occultic tones, just like Pokemon and Yugi-Oh. Alot of those Japanese based shows have Wiccan elements, because of "Reiki", a predominant Japanese religion based on nature and elements, colors and the "natural order."
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Some of these things I think sound satanic but are just used as complete fiction. On the note about Ki, I used to watch Dragonball Z a lot and I don't think thats satanic at all. I just think back to when I was a kid and to be honest kids are NORMALLY to young to understand the kinds of things you guys are talking about anyway they just want to have fun. As for harry potter and witch craft I see its gotten darker than it started out to be.
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